TPToA Podcast 399 – The Electric State

Dion 

Oh, hello and welcome to the periodic table of awesome. And tonight I think I’ll write a straight anyway, I feel like I’m very electric. He’s very electric. An electric powered evening everything is live. All. Everything’s great. Hello kuni. 

Quinny 

Is that the state you’re in? 

Dion 

Peter. That is the state I’m in. There’s the there’s the, the one that. 

Quinny 

Excellent. 

Dion 

Had to do all right, OK. No, sorry. Can’t do a Norwegian accent because. I don’t care if it was written by. 

Quinny 

I mean, I’ll give it a red hot go, but you’re gonna hate it. 

Dion 

Yeah. I mean they only Norwegian accent I can do is from the chef, from The Muppets. So. 

Quinny 

With me. 

Dion 

The word across Pratt. Hey, I. 

Speaker 

Peta 

Mean the swanish chef? 

Quinny 

You’re feeling like. 

Dion 

I know I just do it to annoy Europeans. Fine. 

Peta 

Can’t remember what. Comic has that amazing bit about the Swedish chef being in the Norwegian. Chef in Sweden. Adam Hills, I think. Anyway, it’s a great bit. 

Quinny 

Look it up, yeah. 

Speaker 

You leave. 

Dion 

You leave Megan. Lovely. 

Quinny 

I still think that’s the best thing about the Swedish chef is what your what, your real name. 

Dion 

Tonight we are going to be doing well reviewing the electric state, the new Netflix vehicle for both Millie Bobby Brown and Chris Pratt. 

Speaker 

The. 

Dion 

Worst, Chris, is that is he still the worst? Chris like I need to figure this out. Like. 

Quinny 

I mean, I know another Chris, who is actually worse than him, but that’s a different thing altogether like. 

Dion 

Sure. No, we’re talking about what is. You know, Pine Pratt, Evans, Hemsworth. Is he still the worst? I don’t know. 

Quinny 

With. Pay the where where are. What are your feelings on the Chris’s? 

Peta 

It’s been a while since I’ve updated the the Chris rating system. I think Pratt is still the worst. I mean, let’s be honest just. 

Dion 

Yeah. The. The last time I heard about the anything to do with Chris Pratt doing a bad thing was buying a house in Brentwood, in LA and and it was a like an architecturally significant house. And then just like, demolishing it and building a new one. And like that was that was like last year just last year. 

Peta 

He. He lost a lot of points for tomorrow. Though like. 

Quinny 

I did. I went to a burlesque show on the weekend called Marvelous, which is running in Sydney. The rest of this week. And in fact. 

Dion 

Thanks, Courtney. Spawn con. 

Quinny 

Anytime. But I didn’t laugh because the narrator, Deadpool guy at one point like so we’ve got all of the Chris’s we’ve got, you know, all your favorite Chris Hemsworth audience goes yeah. Chris, Chris over the other one was. 

Peta 

Evans, Chris. 

Quinny 

Evans, yay. 

Dion 

Christopherson. 

Quinny 

Pratt and the audience just ******* gave him nothing. 

Speaker 

Like. 

Quinny 

Never heard an audience sucking their breath all as one and go. 

Dion 

Oh dear yeah. 

Quinny 

I think. Know where we’re at with the prep. 

Dion 

Yeah, sure. Well, enough talking about Chris Pratt. About. Bobby Brown, how are we all going with? We still love Millie. Doesn’t that seem terrible? 

Peta 

She’s gonna. She looks like she’s having a fun time again. I haven’t. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Peta 

I’m not up to date on what people are doing in real life. Don’t know who we’re cancelling at the moment. Yeah. But I I still have fun with Millie. 

Dion 

Fair enough. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Think. 

Speaker 

Sure. 

Dion 

I mean, I feel. I I feel slightly a little bit uncomfortable for Millie as a sidebar in the sense that it’s like she seems to be doing a lot of like 80s slash 90s stuff at the moment. Feel like she’s kind of getting a bit pigeon holed into that. Like sort of. It’s like it’s OK to do things current maybe, but hey. 

Peta 

Here’s the thing. The 90s is super in with the kids right now. So. She’s she’s actually on Zeitgeist. She’s off. 

Dion 

Yeah, she’s moving with. She’s doing the decade move and. 

Speaker 4 

Yeah. 

Dion 

I can’t wait to see Millie Bobby Brown in her early to in the Naughties era, when that becomes a thing that’s like, Oh no, that slow so long ago. We’re remaking. 

Speaker 

You. Know. 

Quinny 

I don’t want that. Don’t want. I don’t want us to have nostalgia for 2003. 

Dion 

Why are we doing 10 things I hate about you, the remake? 

Quinny 

The thing I think that Milly Bobby Brown is suffering from at the moment is that whole thing of constantly being thought of as still 12. And you know, even though she now is 21 and looks, you know, in all of the press like a like a. 

Peta 

Grown adult human being. 

Quinny 

Yeah, exactly. She is still being put into these very young roles. And no matter what, there is this vague sense of. Like, yeah, but you’re older than. And I know we’ve been doing that since Beverly Hills 902. Oh, and you know all that kind of stuff of 30 year olds playing 15 year olds. But I feel like there’s probably a thing for her to go. Can I play some roles where I’m an adult? Yeah, fine. 

Dion 

But she’s not in this one, all right. Let’s just be honest. She’s. 

Quinny 

No, it’s. 

Dion 

Playing a teenager, joining on your old, playing a teenager. 

Quinny 

Another. Thing. 

Dion 

Peta 

I mean, please, what media did we have when we were teenagers, where teenagers were not played by people in their mid to late 20s? 

Dion 

All 30s iron wiring. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Looking at similar, yeah. 

Peta 

That’s part of the course. 

Dion 

Sure. We’re not going to use what are we doing? Are we? So we’ve already said. We’re doing the electric state tonight, the Netflix show. So movie Netflix movie their. Kind of one for that’s coming out which. In all accounts seems to take a lot of fun and cool boxes. You know, based on a pretty cool property by Simon Stalenhag. Sure. Hug. 

Quinny 

Yes. 

Dion 

And directed by the Russo. So you know, bit of pedigree in there. That’s all right. That sounds pretty fun. And we watched it. 

Quinny 

We did before we go digging further, I would like to know what you both aware of. The artist Simon Stolenhuk. Do you? 

Peta 

Yeah, I my awareness of said artist is limited to previous discussions that we have had. In regard to. Television series, whose name I have forgotten, but you’re about to tell me now. In the loop. 

Dion 

Tails in the loop, not in the loop. 

Peta 

That’s right. 

Dion 

Whoops, that’s a different one. 

Quinny 

That’s very different thing. Very, very different thing. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. No, no tales from the loop that which was the Amazon TV series, which used that as the inspiration. Like the Stalin hug art as inspiration. 

Quinny 

Well, and also in very much the same things as this, that tales from the loop was an art book that he put out. And so the TV series was kind of going OK. Let’s let’s use this art book. And a lot of the art books do have. An amount of kind of narrative with them so that the the book of the electric state is all of these big sort of double page spread beautiful paintings, usually with a little sort of sidebar of text. Kind of doing a bit of world building or explaining some more of the story. Or expanding this world. He’s done a few, so there’s electric state tales from the loop, things from the flood and the labyrinth and sunset at 0 points. There’s a bunch of them. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, but they’re. 

Dion 

Moody and they’re evocative, and they they they set great tone. And they and and they’re like imagery that that hasn’t has like let’s you fill in all the blanks about how to get there and how did that all kind of work? I felt like and to go back to tailspin, I felt that that was a really interesting. 

Speaker 1 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Approach that they took with that and because that was also a Moody and interesting show that let you kind of fill in the gaps. About Moses, I’ve kept a lot of mystery going in this kind of landscape that are presented. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Dion 

And then you had this movie. 

Quinny 

A movie pathologically incapable of keeping a secret to itself. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Quinny 

A movie is so keen to tell you every piece of law, every piece of back story, every piece of character history. 

Speaker 4 

Or. 

Peta 

And yet so unkind to actually make any effort make any logical sense. 

Quinny 

Oh yeah. 

Dion 

I I thoroughly enjoyed within the 1st 20 minutes of it getting an A full explanation of 1 character’s back story to then change the scene to a dream flashback of the exact scenario that they just explained in the character story. Like the back story I was like, but you just told us this. And now we get to see it. As a dream flashback. 

Quinny 

Yeah, it’s hardly no. You’ve already told us. 

Dion 

Yeah, anyway. 

Quinny 

God. Yeah. So should we have a quick synopsis as to what this film? 

Dion 

Sure, why not? 

Quinny 

‘Cause, I’d also like I’m going to be doing a thing throughout this that I know that you have gotten in trouble for in the in the past, which is. Comparing it to the original. And going, oh, we didn’t do. So anyway, this is the synopsis of the. Now the question is where we at with the **** accents? Already done. Swedish chef. 

Speaker 

Yeah. Can I help you? 

Quinny 

What? What do I? What do we what are we doing here? 

Dion 

Norweg. Danish. Danish. Arch. 

Quinny 

Oh no, this is going to go bad. 

Peta 

It’s already gone bad. Oh dear. 

Speaker 4 

I know. Very scared. 

Quinny 

Based on the graphic novel of the same name by Simon Stalin Hagg. Ard. How it’s pronounced if we’re. Plate takes place in a reimagined version of 1997. Pete’s face Pete’s. Is where it’s at. 

Peta 

I’m sorry, it’s physically painful, but keep going. 

Quinny 

With humans isolated in their VR helmets and the continuing battle against a strange breed of monstrous drones in the. 

Speaker 

Sorry. 

Speaker 4 

Tell me more about the monster monster’s dance. 

Quinny 

I’m sorry. Oh dear, in the wake of a technological meltdown like a teenage girl named Michelle and the robot travel through the West Coast of the US in search of the girls missing brother. No *******. The brother the robot. There you. There’s all of these surprises that you’re going to get. 

Speaker 

Well. 

Peta 

Rush in there interesting. 

Quinny 

I’m just, I mean. 

Dion 

Disappointed reading? 

Peta 

These. These are. **** accents that we really TuneIn for. 

Quinny 

I was gonna say. I’m I’m very I’m not. 

Dion 

I’m sad that we. 

Peta 

Sure. What the film is about, because I was so distracted. 

Dion 

I’m sad we didn’t get to Spanish. Really, to be honest. Didn’t just end up in Bueno at the end. 

Quinny 

I’m learning that in Duolingo at the moment, so you know maybe maybe I’m gonna stick away from that. 

Dion 

My God.

Peta 

This is a movie about robots. 

Quinny 

OK, an orphan Dean hits the road with a mysterious robot to find a long lost brother teaming up with a smuggler and his wise cracking sidekick. That’s kind of a short version. Tldr. 

Dion 

Yeah. And and. 

Peta 

We’ve had a lot. We’ve had a lot of dystopian futures. 

Quinny 

Hmm I. 

Peta 

With robots and androids, and some combination. Recently. And they haven’t always done for me. Same fact, I think. I think the most recent ones I’ve had complaints about. 

Dion 

Which is yeah. 

Peta 

So. 

Dion 

Which is the most recent robot dystopian future? Is it mithregan? 

Quinny 

What was that? 

Peta 

No. Oh, well, I mean, we’ve had. Oh my God. I’m not having a good lifetime at the moment. Me out. 

Dion 

All right, I get it. No worries. 

Peta 

We’ve had our recent romantic comedy that. Had a dystopian. Robot, we’ve had our big, expensive movie at some point last year with Little Boy Android that needed rescuing and the Sleeping Beauty SRO situation. 

Speaker 

Yeah. Yes. 

Dion 

Oh, companion, are you talking about companion? Had that one. That was a romantic love story. 

Peta 

I was talking about companion. You cesar’s helping. You Cass? 

Quinny 

Yes. Back through the hot tub time. 

Peta 

Trust. Chat. Yeah. Look, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve. It’s it’s. It’s a theme that we’ve been riffing on a lot lately and I I kind of feel like when when we’re riffing on on a theme a lot, I’m gonna start really getting a lot harder on it because. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Peta 

I don’t know. Like if if we’re if we’re not feeling like it’s new and and fresh and and we’re gonna I’m. 

Speaker 

Peta 

It’s hard to avoid my **** waves and my my criticisms. 

Dion 

11 important thing to note, I think I think about this film. It is very definitely not a ******* film. 

Peta 

At that stage. 

Quinny 

No. 

Dion 

So this is yeah, this is. This is not that one, this one is. 

Peta 

It is. Is. It is not that one. 

Dion 

No. 

Peta 

No, it is not, but it is a a robots in. 

Dion 

And and. 

Peta 

Lickably started a war when I think, inexplicably, the the very lengthy and detailed expositional sequence. 

Speaker 

Me. 

Peta 

Doesn’t actually explain why we have installed technology in all of these robots. With some kind of artificial intelligence capable of self actualization. Like it probably didn’t need to be. In all of in all of the robots. 

Dion 

It’s it’s a very interesting point. I think you’re making there, Pete, with the the fact that it goes at the film goes out of its way to explain that this is technically the 90s as an alternate, like an alternate history, 90s where people are still using computers. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Like a 90s Macintosh. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I was windows. 

Dion 

Except for yeah. But but like a 90s era, like kind of computing power, but also these robots that are all running around. Vastly. Complex with no explanation to it. Apart from this sort of nebulous little thing that they throw out, there is, like, based on Walt Disney. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Like Imagineering, robot. And then we made robots and it was like, cool. Didn’t explain how the program. 

Peta 

And then robots decided that they didn’t want to work for us anymore, and they’d like, wanted their own lives. I’m like, what technology have we? In these robots. 

Quinny 

Why did we do that? It seems counterproductive. 

Dion 

Why do we not make them into computers like the computers that we? At home. 

Peta 

And it it makes sense in some context like it makes sense in humans. 

Speaker 

Yeah. What are they running? 

Peta 

Where the premise is that we have created. Humanoid androids that are just like us in many ways that are only meant to be our helpers and somebody’s mess with the code. And you know, they’ve self actualized like, OK, that makes sense. Just like all of the robotic things in the world. 

Speaker 

What? 

Peta 

Regardless of what they were designed for, have self actualized and decided that they want to live their own lives is just a suspection of disbelief. Leap that I was unable to take from the beginning, so I was fairly screwed. 

Quinny 

Yeah, starting out. And it’s something that the. So sorry, I’m going to do my first thing about the book. Something that the book avoids. The book is all set in a in a world where the war has happened and it’s happened quite some time ago. It’s never particularly explained who the war is was with, or why you get the vague sense that there were robots, but there are these gigantic drone sh. Stuff like that. It’s certainly never shown as being like, oh, it was a bunch of humans getting around and, you know, shooting cutesy robots or anything like that. You get the impression that this is like. People living in the scaffolding of **** that has fallen down 20 years ago. And trying to rebuild society around all of this stuff, whereas this is not that it’s it’s, it’s this kind of cartoony. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Very friendly. Very well lit. Very sunny. Kind of idiocy. Oh. 

Peta 

It’s got the vibe of wall-e. No. With the aesthetics of. Halfway there to the aesthetics like I can see looking at the original artwork, how the aesthetics have come from it. It doesn’t have that latent creepiness. In. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Peta 

I mean the design looks very similar, but it’s it’s got more of a like Disney. Comedy feel than it does that kind of like it’s creepy horror feel. 

Quinny 

Hmm. Yes. Yeah. Like it’s a book that that like you see the pictures in the book and it’s all about a girl traveling across America with a small cute robot. But like, it feels alien. And it feels really strange in this one. Course they feel the need to put a truck driver with a stupid handlebar mustache, and he’s. Cutesy robot. Like it’s it’s exactly what you expect from a Hollywood adaptation, yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, just like. And in that like you’re talking about, you know, in the book, it felt like a struggle. You know, there is this thing this way, and this one is just like, oh, people go and have fun adventures, and then they’re gonna fight the bad robots. The bad robots are actually controlled by humans. They’re bad. Maybe I don’t know, but maybe. 

Peta 

And weirdly, those ones haven’t self actualized. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

Well, well. 

Peta 

They have not really explained. 

Dion 

I mean, it’s kind of explained and then it’s trying to make social commentary on the fact that people are plugging in. To computers in a very and it tries to be very painterly, I think. 

Peta 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Oh yeah, in the film. But like, yeah, the narrative. 

Peta 

It’s not ugly. 

Dion 

No. Yeah. 

Peta 

It’s it looks good. 

Dion 

It’s narratively ugly. 

Speaker 

It’s hmm, yes. 

Dion 

Which? Which is what I think a bit of the problem was. I had AI had an issue with the fact that I was like oh. It it’s it’s. Kind of like, you know, someone looked at the book and went. That’s some very quick storyboards and then go write a script about that, but it’s gotta be. But here are the markets that we need to touch on, like that’s what it felt like. It’s like he’s he’s your visual interpretation. I need a script for this, but here are the things that you need to like, market. 

Quinny 

Oh. 

Dion 

It has to be kid friendly, can’t have any blood. Has to be accessible to this market. This demographic, you know, all of those kinds of things. 

Quinny 

We want Fitzpatrick to be a little. Chubby and sunny, you know. Also, we want to really tap that nostalgia button. The way through. 

Speaker 

Joe. 

Quinny 

Like, that’s something I kind of was watching. Was like, who the ****? That element come from. 

Dion 

Because 90s kids are grown up now and they have kids and that’s what we’re going for. We’re looking for a movie that people like, people who are kids in the 90s. 

Quinny 

I get it. Yeah. 

Dion 

Are now having kids and what can they we take them to go and see and that’s where it felt like it came from. 

Quinny 

It’s all about Twinkies and Billy, the big mouth bass. 

Dion 

And and. 

Peta 

But also because Jen Gen. Z has a lot of interest in 90s nostalgia at the moment, which is insulting. To say the least. 

Dion 

But I found I found a very insulting to just be have so many ******* nostalgia references done by like, you can’t talk about the GI Joe lunch box. It’s like Jesus Christ. 

Quinny 

You know what this reminded me of? And, and I think we we started talking about it last week. This reminded me so much of Ready Player 1. In that sense that it has obviously had buckets of money thrown at it. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Like Ready Player 1 does it with like Spielberg money where he says **** it. I’m gonna throw every character that I can get a license to. And Oh no, tarry’s going to bed. Bye, darry. And throw them at the screen. This is kind of like, well, we’re gonna spend a **** ton of money on very complicated animated. Robot characters, and we’re going to fill our frames with them, but we’re still going to be sold like, you know, it felt really obvious. And in your face. And just. Yes. 

Peta 

That that’s nuance. 

Quinny 

Yes. 

Peta 

And mystery and. Just, yeah, it lacked. 

Dion 

Yeah. I mean, I think I feel like it lacked. It lacked. It’s just kind of the easiest phrase to use is it’s. How? You feel about the electric state it lacked. But you know, on a positive side, I quite enjoyed the the look that was taken from the Simon Stalin, Hagg, Stalin hug. Simon Haagen does. Look of things. But it I found it very detracting when I had to watch the humans interact with stuff or the human sort of idea of it was that even though they had, you know, somewhat kind of interesting characters, you know, Gencallo Esposito was in there as the bounty hunter kind. Like he’s he’s riding a robot from his. Wherever he is, I feel like he’s getting a little bit pigeonholed as a bounty hunter. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Many bounty hunters has has he like villains? 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

He been playing now. 

Speaker 

You just. 

Dion 

Like. 

Peta 

Gotta like. He’s just got a really, like, good bounty hunter glare. 

Dion 

Yeah, but it’s. But, but it’s that’s completely ineffectual when you put it behind a screen. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Like it’s his in person persona. 

Quinny 

And that’s the other thing. Like, you know, a lot of these films are built on the. Of peril. You know that we want to feel that the characters are imperiled in any way, shape or form. There was precisely 2 moments in this film where I thought, oh, maybe a character might be vaguely in danger. Can I? 

Dion 

Can I have a little bit of anger just with one thing about that particular bounty hunter like character? 

Speaker 

Um. 

Quinny 

Yeah, he ****** me right off. 

Dion 

I mean, I actually kind of liked the. The you know the little bit Western character that was just like kind of Yule, Bruner’s Westworld always. Down and. It wouldn’t kind of stop, but how overpowered was the character at the points where it needed to be and weak when it wasn’t like and also the gun that he had just seemed to destroy? Everything like that he that he shot at. And yet when you come to the big climactic battle at the end, no one else has. Gun. Nobody else has the firepower like that one bounty hunter Guy who had, like, basically a pistol that shoots red lightning that destroys everything. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

And then you’ve got a whole army that have been fighting robots for. Years and they have. 

Quinny 

Mm. 

Dion 

They have basically like figured spud guns. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

And it’s just dumb. 

Quinny 

I something I’ve noticed part way through and one of the things that really frustrated me was that the the book the art has this real big sense of scale like the the landscapes are big. Things are a long way. And you can see how gigantic these. These things were in the landscape. All the time, I kept on feeling like I was in small rooms. Like even you know, there were a few times where they’re out on a Prairie or whatever, and I still kept on feeling like, OK. We’re in a small car. Now we’re in a small room. We’re in a mall. Another ******* mall because I’m pretty sure Netflix bought 5 malls about 10 years ago, and now they’re just using them for everything they can. 

Dion 

Just used more. You know, we must have a well, it feels a little bit like what is it, the Canadian quarry. 

Speaker 

And. 

Dion 

From from like Stargate TV shows and everywhere that were shot in Canada. It’s just like, oh, we’ve got these quarries, we’ve got to use them. I feel like, yeah, Netflix has got a lot of moles. Like, well, we got these disused moles in Midwest Idaho. Better go shoot there. 

Quinny 

Yeah, like there’s something about the the book that is really cold and really wet and you get the distinct impression that, like maybe the whole ecosystem has been fried. It’s all like all the images are grey and rainy and stuff like that. And that’s one of the things that. Of the. Of the book. And then you set this in the desert. Like middle of the day, hot desert all the time. And you’re like. 

Dion 

Rain is very hard to animate quinny because all of this felt like it was shot on a green screen. 

Speaker 

Hi. 

Quinny 

Excuse very much so. Pete, you mentioned about. How far into it were you before your first exposition hip study? 

Peta 

Before I sent you guys a message saying if you don’t hear from me, I’ve. From exposure. 

Quinny 

That’s the one. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Peta 

I was definitely within the 1st 10 minutes of the film. 

Dion 

‘Cause I hadn’t seen it. And then I was like, oh, and then I started watching it, and I was like, oh, my God, she’s right. Like. I’m just. 

Peta 

Yeah, it was in the IT was in the the, the expositional news sequence which again we’ve had a lot of alternate histories recently as well. It’s just not the best I’ve seen it done. I mean, it could make it 3 by 4 to begin with. Like. And then we have like we have the, it’s under the guise of of. A piece on on the the tech. You know. And then there is, you know, a historic montages as part of the piece, and it’s all supposed to kind of feel like. 90s television. And. It just. Oh my God, it just killed me. 

Quinny 

And. 

Peta 

It just killed me with exposition. 

Quinny 

And the main thing is that there are two competing kind of narratives. Like you’ve you’ve well two competing questions like you’ve got this technology thing about all these robots and you’re like, OK, robots. Was a robot uprising, and now you know, it’s like free the. And stuff like. And then you’ve got this other thing. With the tech mogul and everybody being. You know, vaguely addicted to their neurolink thing, yes. And it’s like. I know that they’re kind of linked together, but they don’t feel like they belong. I don’t know. 

Peta 

Like I would have been able to watch the film without the explanation. Yeah, and and my brain would have filled in the gaps in ways that. I didn’t spend the entire film going back. 

Dion 

Isn’t it? 

Speaker 

Isn’t. 

Peta 

Why? 

Dion 

That. Isn’t that the meta narrative that they’re trying to? Is that because people are so disconnected and they’re always stuck in their way, like their their neurocaster, you know? That they can’t actually, you know, think. You have to spoon feed it to people and that’s the problem. And the only way you could be a cool kid these days is not be joining with all the other kids using the technology. Isn’t that right? 

Peta 

My I’m. I mean, yes. The the messages is heavy-handed, but I suppose relevant and I guess that’s the other kind of annoying thing about it, is sort of like, oh, there’s kind of like you could have, you could do something even though you’ve set it in the 90s. 

Speaker 

Like it? There’s. 

Peta 

You know, like we’re talking about, like the messaging in Mickey 17 last week and how like there was a lot. That it kind of had to say. And I think there’s a lot that this had to say. But I wasn’t with. I wasn’t on the I just like was not on the. Enough with this film to to kind of get messaging, but then I kind of wonder, are we being old and jaded and panicked? 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Peta 

And would this film, you know, it is? It’s a good looking film. It is, you know. Has a great cast like. Will this play better for somebody younger who isn’t going to get so Maya down in the? In the ****, wives and the failed attempt at nostalgia. 

Quinny 

I don’t know. Like, I mean by all accounts has not really hit its mark. It has not received particularly great sort of notifications from anywhere and it cost a lot of money. Like lot of money. But yeah, I don’t. Maybe. Maybe for a younger audience, this this would work, but it also. 

Peta 

Feels like it’s for a younger. 

Dion 

I mean, yeah. 

Quinny 

But then it still kind of doesn’t in so many ways cause like it’s still got this kind of weird tonal thing where occasionally it wants to be really dark and unpleasant. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

And then it. Then it kind of veers away and goes, no, we’re going to do cutesy stuff for a little while. There’s this whole thing at the start with her foster father that you know. 

Dion 

And who was that? George costanza. I know Jason Alexander at the. Where I was like wait, what? 

Quinny 

You know, and he’s, you know, going. What are the different ways that we can collect money off you and, you know, like, there’s sort of some vague element of like, oh, we’re going to go bit of social realism or not realism. But social commentary there. Not really. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

It’s, I mean, OK, do you? Do you remember the animatrix? Yes, Peter, did you see the animatrix? 

Peta 

Good. Did not. Did not watch that? No. I also never saw a third matrix. 

Dion 

Oh, OK. 

Peta 

So you know I, but then I saw the 4th 1:00. So I like, yeah, that must be about the matrix. 

Dion 

No, no, no. I’m. I’m talking about like there is there is the matrix and then there is the Anna matrix and there are no other films. 

Peta 

Right. Oh, OK. 

Dion 

Yeah.

Peta 

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that that was the hierarchy of the matrix, so I probably. Watch the animators. 

Dion 

It’s just my hierarchy. 

Quinny 

Bye. 

Dion 

But in it like there is too short like animated films like ’cause, it’s it is a collection of melange. Of different stories called the Second Renaissance Part 1, a Second Renaissance, Part 2, and that explains the robot operating in like a very short, sharp kind of like how did, how did they go from, you know, having robots that were serving humans to how did the robots Reb. Take over humanity. Like that is all they. And they could do that in like 15 minutes. And it was like, amazing. And you got, you got all of the things, you know, kind of like. 

Peta 

Phone. 

Dion 

You understood. Hit all the right beat so you could fill in the gaps and understand like great. See why the robots rebelled? Humans were being comple. And what does the war look like? Is it all? And that’s what I think that this kind of steered away from instead of steering into felt. It’s like we’re going to actually go this direction where this is just a fun kids story to go. Some dark themes in there, but we’re just going to not go anywhere near those dark themes and we’re just going to just try and make this as accessible as pop as possible to everyone. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

And when we look at the, I’m sorry, when you look at the book like there, it’s a horror book. That’s the. It’s kind of sits right on the borderline of liminal space and horror that throughout the whole thing, all of those neurocasters. So all through the book, there are just people who are virtually. Standing around. Like with those on their heads going like unable to move because they’re completely subsumed into it and it’s become basically a disease. You know. 

Dion 

Yeah. And they they tried. There’s that one scene in the film where someone’s passed out like on a street, just kind of lying there. 

Quinny 

Yeah, but she puts a. 

Dion 

That’s OK, but it was not trying to say anything. Just kind of went, oh, it’s this. 

Quinny 

We should look after these people because they’re in their little things and it’s like. There. There is such a this is my mistake and it’s a mistake I always make. I look for the film that could have been. I keep thinking that I want the film to have been something that I could see, that it could be, you know, I want things to be darker. Want things to be more weird and I want things to feel more, whatever. I want this. I want the the electric state, the book novel, to be adapted. By Gareth Edwards at the time that he made Monts. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

You know, on a budget of **** all where he was just going and going saying how do I make it really weird little film. I’d like it to feel more like annihilation, you know. 

Peta 

You guys have annihilation. Swear to God. 

Quinny 

I know you don’t like. 

Peta 

And I agree this is. 

Quinny 

Feel like Last of Us? 

Peta 

You know it wasn’t. Wasn’t for. I do wonder if maybe it wasn’t meant for us because you know, looking at the poster and the advertising for it like it looks like a Disney film, it looks like maybe it’s for tweens. And are we doing that thing where we’re getting ****** at something just because? Not meant for us. But but yeah as as. For something that for my tastes and when we’ve got so many options now for stories that are like this, that are told in really different ways. It really wouldn’t be one that I. Recommend. But maybe it’ll find an audience, you know, with some younger kids who don’t have, you know, the the. 

Speaker 

Hello. 

Dion 

I think no, but. 

Peta 

Yeah, maybe. 

Dion 

Think the problem is is that actually tales from the loop got it really accurate. So when you watch something. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

It’s basically the same kind of property, the same idea ideology that’s running through this thing gets it so different in that way. Like you know, it’s this could all be the one universe, you know, tales from the loop. And you know the electric state and all those kinds. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Things this could all be the same universe. Technically, and it’s disappointing to see something miss away from. But like you know, I see the point here of going oh, it’s not for me. So therefore. It’s bad. No. 

Speaker 

I just wonder. 

Peta 

If we’re falling into that trap, because to me. Feels like it’s not meant for adults, really. 

Quinny 

Like you. 

Peta 

Know it’s too simplistic and it’s it’s storytelling, and maybe it was never meant to be for us. I don’t. Maybe I’m just trying to find something for. 

Quinny 

That was definitely. 

Peta 

It because. A great cast and it’s not ugly. 

Quinny 

No, I I kept on thinking all the way through it. Was like, where’s the artfulness in the dialogue? Like you know, we’re talking about exposition. I don’t mind a bit of exposition if it’s done with a bit of flair. But this it’s funny. This and Captain America, the most recent one, both felt like it was just written by people who were going. This is the word need to say now there’s no. Like. Kind of poetry to. No, really. You know meaningful lines that make you go. That’s sort of got something to say. 

Dion 

I mean, if. OK, here’s here’s my thing, my counter claim. If this was meant for kids, why would the dialogue rely so heavily on nostalgia ticks and all of the scenes rely so much on on, on hitting nostalgia bits for people and music? Yeah, exactly. Like you talk about Marky Mark, Funky Bunch. The the big mouth bass. You know, all that kind of stuff that has, that’s not for the. You know that’s for the the adults. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

So This is why it got slightly. And also you know if it were really for kids, where’s? You know, where’s the thing of like, you know, heavily marketing towards children’s like, come and see electric. We’re going to talk about Cosmo. You know, the little robot boy that you, you know, his sister, that are going through. It’s none of that. It’s quite literally. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

You should take your kids to see this or we should watch this because it’ll be fun. As we don’t know exactly who are marketing this to, but we just need to make sure it’s accessible to everyone. 

Quinny 

As a matter of interest, did that work for either of you? That relationship between her and and kid Cosmo, the the little robot? So cute. 

Peta 

Absolutely. I didn’t understand it at all. I thought that that little thing that he does with his hand was. Was. Like a thing from the actual cartoon. So I didn’t understand how that would be like something that would make her understand that it’s him. 

Dion 

‘Cause ’cause the the robots. 

Peta 

I think you’re right that like that, that that journey from like, what is this to? Definitely. My brother was like, way too quick for me. Didn’t understand how. 

Dion 

I love how they skip. 

Quinny 

She got there. So that’s the big twist at the end of the book like that, you go through the whole book and it’s like, oh, no, this little robots been her brother the whole ******* time. Big twist. Shock ending. No 1st 5 minutes of the film. 

Dion 

And I mean like. The other part of that was it could have started so well because he is humans in the human area. After all, the robots have been isolated in their cage reserve. All right, one robot turns. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

And you know, at the start, she’s like, Oh my God, there’s a robot. It’s gonna kill us, you know, kind of vibe that you’re getting for going. Be kind of like a story like obviously robots are still out there and they’re dangerous. But we don’t get any of. We just get like after 2 minutes. It’s like, oh, this is a nice robot, OK? Must save this robot. You’re. What? What the **** is going on? 

Quinny 

On like, yeah, like they they. 

Peta 

Big flash. 

Quinny 

Started the edge towards it at the start, didn’t. That it was like this was like a home invasion and there was a kind of race kind of thing being played. A robot’s gotten in and broken into your house. In danger. But then they kind of went OK. We’re going to away from. 

Dion 

That we’ve banged on for 45. 

Speaker 

Who is? 

Dion 

Now let’s rate this and move on, shall we? 

Quinny 

Well, we can do spoilery stuff anyway. 

Dion 

Yeah, we’ll get. 

Quinny 

There is one thing I really would like to talk about the end. 

Dion 

Sure. No, no, that’s good. That’s. We should write that because it has been 45 minutes. 

Quinny 

Dion 

Talked already? 

Quinny 

Speaker 

Right. 

Dion 

I’ll start. Look, I’m gonna give it 60. Some of the robots are cool. Some of the dialogue between the robots is great, but it’s vastly underutilised, like because you don’t spend enough time with the robot characters to understand or get sympathy for them. They steer so heavily away from violence and blood and death and real like reality. That it is difficult to to like. I don’t think anyone was doing a bad job. Just think it’s. So I lost marks because it was a disappointing reality to the interesting. 

Speaker 

Cancel. 

Dion 

Quinny 

Fair enough. Pete, do you want to go next? 

Peta 

Yeah, again I. I don’t think anyone did a bad job. I just really didn’t like the storytelling. I really, really didn’t like the storytelling style. Like. At all, from the very beginning. It. It was just so half me to get on board with any of it. Think the performances you know great. The cast is great. The you know. Design of the robot’s thought, thought for what it was, was cool. Would have liked it to be different. Yes, 58. Which is like I just like. I’m not mad at it. Just really personally didn’t like the storytelling style. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I’m. I’m with you on that one. And remind of everybody in the chat, if you have seen it drop a drop a rating in there. Love to adding your ratings. Yeah, I after watching the film, I was disappointed. After doing a bunch more sort of reading and exploring about everything else, I got more disappointed because I realised that if you’re adapting something. Then that is beloved by a lot of people, and you willfully choose to adapt it poorly. And like, steer away from the things that make it what it is and make it interesting. Then that kind of ***** me all the more. Yeah, it’s as film entirely by itself. Visually interesting. It’s got OK characters, some fun performances. I think Chris Pratt is entirely unnecessary in this film. 

Dion 

I know he’s cool, he’s cool. 

Quinny 

I like. 

Dion 

Sidekick was necessary though. 

Quinny 

I liked Anthony Mackie though. That’s Anthony Mackie’s cool robot. I got cool. Chris Pratt didn’t need him. I’m actually. To go a little lower than. I’m I’m straight at 50% because I think this is half the ******* film it should be. It. All tonally wrong. 

Speaker 

Is. 

Quinny 

Just wrong, Daddy wrong. 

Dion 

Speaking of wrong Daddy wrong, let’s go to a clip. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Speaker 

Thank you. How’d you 2 meet? 

Speaker 1 

We actually met in the. We’re supposed to be. 

Speaker 

Killing each other. 

Speaker 2 

Bots had my whole platoon surrounded, broke my leg in two. Ten men circled up to finish off the job. Look up. I see this big dumb construction bot peering down at me. Close my. Get ready to die and instead he just lifts me up, carries me out. 

Speaker 1 

You were crying like a baby. 

Speaker 2 

Yeah. Not like a baby, you know, they don’t really know human emotion. 

Speaker 4 

It was a war cry like, yeah, Wolverine. 

Speaker 1 

Please, you are sucking your thumb and begging me to save your ***. 

Speaker 2 

He’s he’s correct. 

Speaker 

Is that a mall? 

Speaker 1 

Seems to be in pretty good shape as the scabs hasn’t folded yet. Fine. 

Dion 

There we go. Sorry. There we go. Right button. Back here. So everything’s fine. Scabs. There we go. Yeah. I just want to talk about that one. Rebecca, you got a little bit of the the Grizzly War ward veteran, kind of Chris Pratt thing. 

Quinny 

Yes. You seem in the opening montage too. 

Dion 

Yeah. Isn’t that? Just a little way to call back later. Kind of boring. 

Speaker 

Mm. 

Dion 

Doesn’t actually show any reasoning because he doesn’t do anything in that to to make you feel any doesn’t act like a war vet. It’s very, very superficial scavengers, so they’re robots that hunt other robots in the reserve to take their parts because they’re all degraded, and that could have been an interesting idea. Yep. Did we see any of that? No, because they never ******* turned. 

Peta 

Shade. 

Dion 

They turned up twice and the second time they didn’t do anything. Were ineffectual. 

Quinny 

I do love the Kihui Kwan has now got an ongoing gig as science Guy who will explain stuff. You know, I’m happy for him to have his. New second coming his. Renaissance, if you will. But I do want to see him do other roles that aren’t knowledgeable. Who everybody goes looking for. 

Dion 

Well, just go and watch everything ever all at once again. 

Quinny 

Yo. See, I love that film. Yeah, very weird. OK. Can we talk a spoiler? 

Dion 

Yeah, I’ll put up the spoiler logo. 

Quinny 

That’s not OK. So we’re talking about, like, the tone of the film and how so much of it is quite light and airy and, you know, is cartoony violence and stuff like that. 

Dion 

For it. 

Quinny 

No blood or anything like. And then, sorry, this big spoiler for right at the end. The entire thing hinges on them killing a child. Yep. 

Peta 

I mean, it’s like a kids film from the 80s and early 90s, so like it was cracked for me. 

Dion 

Is it really is? Is it? Is it really about killing a child or is it about a child wishing to die? 

Quinny 

I’m not sure which one’s better, let’s be honest. 

Dion 

Yeah. And it’s it had no like it’s supposed to be a big moment of realization. And and and and have emotion to it. But there is nothing there. Just it’s just the next part of the story. It’s the next thing to do, because that’s what you do. No one actually gives a ****. And people, you don’t see the consequence of this or you don’t see as again right at the end. At least they got. They gave us some exposition, right to finish it all off by explaining what happened after that happened. And instead of. 

Quinny 

But also he’s been there through the whole film as this cute lemon headed robot. But the problem is he doesn’t have any dialogue. He just uses the same pieces of dialogue from the character he’s saying. So he’s not exactly somebody that you can really get invested in as a character. OK. 

Peta 

Kudos to Alan Tudyk for just constantly booking geeks where he just has to come in and read like 3 lines. 

Quinny 

Yes. 

Speaker 

Peta 

Hope he makes a lot. Money for that. 

Dion 

He went he went to Julia. 

Quinny 

The person who I had a moment where I was watching, I was like, why do I know is that voice? Oh my God, it ******* it was Hank Azaria. Yes, yes. Yeah, he was great. 

Dion 

Perplexo. 

Quinny 

But sorry, what were? 

Dion 

You saying, Dan? I said. Said I like. That’s the character that Hank Azaria is like the magician kind of. It reminded me a lot of mystery men because it felt like the blue Raja. It was very close to that same sort of character. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Like a couple of those are fun. But yeah. Rest of them just felt very underutilized. And you know, it felt a little bit like Transformers, but at least I could tell where the faces were on these robots. 

Quinny 

This is the thing like this costs so much money for, you know, this the and there are shots in this that I can see where all the money went like there’s just robots and **** everywhere and explosions. And like super complicated robot builds like this is the kind of stuff that industrial light and magic could be like. **** you how many hours? Yeah, I get where the money went, but I don’t know why they spent it, because it didn’t feel like anything. You know all of the bad guys come flying in and they’ve got, you know. They’re a drone operator somewhere else, so there’s no real kind of danger to them or anything. 

Dion 

Yep. 

Quinny 

They just feel, yeah, everything felt really. Can can I? 

Dion 

Make a point about the production of this though. 

Quinny 

A minute. 

Speaker 

Mute. 

Dion 

Because originally you’ve just got to remember that this is kind of been trapped in a bit of hell and had a bit of production hell that went along with it because it was originally supposed to be Universal Pictures, theatrical release. And it was being filmed in 2022. It’s now 2025. That’s quite a long turn around for a thing, and it has gone from universal to Netflix. So it’s just interesting to know that there was, you know, they were kind of filming it. Were putting things. Michelle Yeo was supposed to be in it. All right. 

Peta 

Are you telling me after everything would start? That Bobby Brown was indeed a teenager when she filmed this role as a teenager. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Quinny 

Yeah, something I feel like a bit of * **** now. 

Dion 

Yeah. Well, I mean, I’m just trying to point that out to you, but also Kikua Khan was in there because Michelle Yeoh couldn’t keep going. She just. You should use my Co star from Everything Everywhere, all at once, so it’s really interesting to have a look at this film and go wow, this is kind of. Been running in a certain way for a long time and it’s taken a long time to get to. We are now. 

Quinny 

It’s funny because that’s almost exactly the same time frame that Mickey, 17, took. 

Dion 

Yeah, exactly. So it’s just kind of like there’s a few. You know, bits and pieces. But yeah, like it felt. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Also, can shout out to Millie Bobby Brown’s makeup. Just seemed to be. No matter what she was doing in. You have this travel across America as a. ‘Cause I was like, wow, your lip gloss has just appeared every time perfectly. And your hair looks amazing no matter what you’re doing. 

Peta 

Yes. Also shout out to her like 90s, blonde grunge dude. Loved it. 

Quinny 

I’m faultless. Yeah. Yep, it’s. It was a powerful look. I want to shout out to Oasis for like one of the closing songs of this movie being Wonderwall. I was like *******. Really. OK. 

Dion 

Oh that. Me, that actually shat me while I was watching it going. Is that ******* Wonderwall? 

Quinny 

Yeah. I just. 

Dion 

I also like. 

Speaker 

It’s the 90s. 

Dion 

A little bit. A little bit of trivia for you. Cue just to give you some validation is that they showed the the trailer in the 2024 New York Comic Con and confirmed that the film would largely like. Diverge from the source material and that was met with a very negative response by fans who was hoping for a more true adaptation. No wonder this kind of hit Netflix and came out this way. Instead of having a a bigger release. Please. 

Quinny 

Yeah. I mean The thing is, if you’re going to adapt this, it’s not a $380 million action film. If you’re going to adapt it, it’s a $20 million art film that, you know, uses very clever filming techniques. And lots of matte paintings and **** like that, as opposed to gigantic CGI battles. Also, I thought it was bold, bold of them to use kashimi in the robots as their closing number. I was like, really? He just gonna use a song about fighting robot. OK, cool from the 90s. You know, I guess that’s on brand. 

Dion 

Casper was. Can you see the money on the screen? I’m like. I mean, it’s definitely there, but whether or not it’s worthwhile. Like you know. There’s there’s a bit like and this happens and this happens and this happens instead of. This happens because this because this because this, you know, it felt a lot like we have to get to this set piece or you know the reason to go like I mean the. Thing that I saw was that there was one shot. Where they were on a train that hitchhiked onto a train and they were just kind of doing that was the longest journey part that they kind of did. 

Quinny 

Oh yeah. 

Dion 

Traveling across America and the rest of it, you are always with. Other people and there was dialogue and there was other things going on. Felt very small. Like you said earlier, queen. 

Quinny 

So I. 

Dion 

Was just kind of like this whole thing was about. I can see the travelling across America. Like. 

Quinny 

Yeah, and this weird, yeah. Weird Wasteland America, but it didn’t feel like that. It felt like America was continuing in its traditional kind of suburban ways. And it just so happened that in the middle of it, there’s this. 

Dion 

A white sand America. 

Quinny 

Robot wasteland in the middle of the Mojave. 

Dion 

How did you actually, out of curiosity, how did you both feel about Stanley Tucci’s evil scientist character? 

Peta 

I mean, you know, you always love Stanley Tucci. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Peta 

It’s it’s, it’s it’s compulsory to love Stanley Tucci. Doing whatever he does. But I felt about that about the same as I felt about the rest of the film. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, I found him to be vague and unconvincing, no. He. He was quite entertaining, but I didn’t give a **** about it and. I couldn’t get past the fact that he was so obviously like a Steve Jobs thing. I was like, yeah, we get it. We we get. Is a Steve Jobs reference OK? Cool. 

Peta 

Which again like after last week is funny because I I really enjoyed the obvious references last week and this week I was like. 

Quinny 

That’s because it feels earned in some ways. 

Peta 

So. It’s it’s a different kind of dystopia. 

Dion 

Well, I mean in that in that one, they’re knowing that they’re doing a knowing parody and this one was kind of like, oh, it’s this kind of thing. So play it like this a bit, you know, am I evil? 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Making a kids. Are we doing a thing like how we trying to be playing this? 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

Hey, difficult. 

Quinny 

Very, very difficult. 

Peta 

No, not not for. 

Quinny 

I sent me. No, I I really would recommend if everybody feels so inclined. Go have a look at the. Find it’s 144 page art book. With narrative elements that go along with it. Go and look at. I think it’s a far more interesting concept. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

You know, this is. Yeah, I can see why people at Comic Con. 

Dion 

Would be ****** sitting. Sit down in a nice, quiet afternoon, put some music on, you know, maybe make a cup of tea and just absorb the imagery on the pages and let your mind create. Fantastical stories behind it, you. 

Quinny 

Can put on the soundtrack that has been composed by Stalin Hogg himself. 

Speaker 4 

Well, there you go. 

Quinny 

You know, he actually writes soundtracks. 

Speaker 

Cool. 

Quinny 

His books by by. 

Dion 

The book and by the soundtrack. 

Quinny 

Yes, yes, go on by. But don’t do it on Amazon because they’re the devil. 

Dion 

Yes. I mean, yes, there is a good. Yes, it’s not a part of a Mega franchise. 

Quinny 

Yeah, and. 

Dion 

I mean that. Yeah, it’s not a remake. Good, you know. 

Quinny 

Yeah, it’s an original concept and we should be applauding it more, but it’s not good. 

Dion 

I just. 

Speaker 

No. 

Dion 

Well, I mean it’s there was an original concept, but it just kind of got, you know, Hollywood fied. Like, oh, we’re just going to change and deviate from the source materials like. Oh. OK. Cool. 

Quinny 

Actually, that’s something I wanted to ask a beautiful listeners. What’s the film that deviated the hardest away from the source material like that? You want. 

Dion 

That was that was successful. 

Quinny 

No, not necessarily. I like you know, there are films that you go. That was nothing like what the original book or comic or whatever was. 

Dion 

I’m going to give it aliens. 

Speaker 4 

But. 

Quinny 

As as in like the sequel. 

Dion 

Aliens. 

Quinny 

OK, I was thinking more. You know, if the way that Blade Runner is, not particularly similar to end to Android’s dream of electric sheep at all. 

Speaker 

Don’t. 

Dion 

But I mean aliens is a very is, I think, a successful extrapolation from the book Alien. By Ellen Foster. 

Quinny 

It was a film first. 

Dion 

Yeah, but then there was a book written about it. 

Peta 

OK, I can. 

Dion 

And that. 

Peta 

This I can see this going down at HOLS. Just going to stop at that. 

Dion 

Yep. 

Quinny 

Yes, started troopers grand. Perfect example. The book is kind of profash. The film is explicitly, amusingly anti fash. 

Dion 

Right then I’m going to say Mortal Kombat. 2 annihilation. Deviates so hard. Yeah. 

Peta 

Yes. Are you starting to feel like that was? 

Speaker 

I want. 

Peta 

Silly question to ask. 

Quinny 

Was but also I want. I want to hear from the I want to hear from our. I would really love for them to go. Hey, this is my favorite book and the film got it spectacularly wrong. Like you know, the characters had the same names, but they were completely wrong. 

Dion 

Oh, easy dragon. Oh my, yes, the live action Dragon Ball Z. You go. 

Quinny 

I’ll give you another one, Artemis fowl. Yeah, I listen to one of those books and I was like, that film is got nothing in common with those books at all. Many would say the first avatar, the Last Airbender. That one. 

Dion 

Oh yeah, the the chemolean 1. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yep. Aragon. Yeah, absolutely. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

So yeah, I. I want to hear like send us an e-mail right as anything. Just want to hear from you. What are the ones that you know? You may have loved? Original concept or whatever, and then the film just completely. Their ****. 

Dion 

The Hobbit. Yeah. Speaking of losing. ****, we’re not back next week. No, we’re. We have a terrible scheduling conflict which is just going to preclude the the anticipatory 400th show, which you’re going to. To wait till April. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Yay spoiler. 

Quinny 

You’re gonna have to deal with the anticip. 

Peta 

I hate you so much. 

Dion 

You’re going to have to do a quick spoiler. We will not be returning on April Fool’s Day, no matter what anyone says, because that’s an April first. 

Quinny 

Haha. 

Dion 

But we will be coming back for April, so we’re going to delay the 400th show till April. So, but we’re still open to ideas. If you’ve got any ideas for the 400 show. Hey, hey, shout out. Shout out. Us before we go for. 

Quinny 

Tell us what you want us to do for 400. 

Dion 

Or you can like you know you could. You could desperately say we really want to know what you thought of snow. What? Do that for the 400 show. No, maybe something a bit better. 

Quinny 

Does anyone need to go to the screening? Anyway. Yes, so thank you. Why not truecalling? Not indeed. 

Dion 

I mean, you know, we’ve got Minecraft coming actually this actually soon as is coming out. 

Speaker 

I know. 

Dion 

That’s a good one. That’s soon. 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Dion 

And then the accountant too. 

Quinny 

Yes. What was the, what’s the Jason Statham one that showed up in our? 

Dion 

Oh, something else. The. That was the last one, but it’s like the bodyguard. Can’t remember. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

Something else? The Workman. We go. You. Yes, the Workman. Don’t. I want to. I kind of want to go and see that, but like, I feel like he’s getting to the point where it’s like. It’s like going to see Tommy Wiseau film now, or I would have Jason Straighten’s going to jump across the air and fire 2 guns at the same time. Yay there, he did it. When he’s got a growl at someone again. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Is he gonna do a a weird fight where he does lots of high kicks and on cleats or something like that? 

Dion 

Yep, Yep. 

Quinny 

What’s exciting you at the moment, Pete, anything exciting happening? 

Peta 

Well, I’m. I’m really having trouble working up any excitement at the moment. Hey was last week the last episode of Severance for this season. 

Quinny 

One more this week. 

Peta 

Really. Because it felt like I was like, oh, that feels like they just got to. Us there. 

Dion 

Just just. 

Peta 

Don’t say anything. 

Quinny 

Won’t. 

Dion 

I haven’t watched any television like like telly stuff since pre cyclone. I’ve been holding off so I haven’t seen any of the severance, any of the white Lotus, all that kind of stuff, 1923 haven’t watched Daredevil, nothing.

Quinny 

Oh man, so much. 

Dion 

Get a build little up for fun. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I. So this this week is the the final episode and it’s a 75 minute long episode. 

Dion 

Nice. 

Quinny 

So yes, as Karina said and or season 2. 

Peta 

Yeah, interesting. 

Dion 

Oh yeah, I’ve got. I’ve got. I’m hanging out for those 3 episodes on April 23. Right Peter’s birthday. Should. Should be sitting there. 

Peta 

Happy birthday to me. 

Dion 

With anticipation. Get it and do anticipation. Get it?

Quinny 

I didn’t do well. 

Dion 

All right, fine. 

Speaker 

Excellent. 

Quinny 

There’s a lot coming out in April. Actually, I started to have a look at it and I was like, hang on, what? Oh, that’s starting up in April. Starting up in. So yeah, there’s going to be like, I’m pretty sure Last of Us kicks back in, Doctor Who kicks back in a bunch of other stuff. So April was. Going to be very busy. 

Dion 

Good as. Saying we’re doing the Workman for our 400th show. 

Quinny 

Yes. No. 

Dion 

No, we shall not be doing that. 

Quinny 

Yes. All right, Smallville. That’s what we’re doing. 

Dion 

No, don’t. Don’t give him hope. Give him hope. 

Quinny 

He he meant severance. 

Dion 

Oh, OK, right. OK, fair. We must put Peter out of her. She’s got so many things to do and she’s she’s busy and quitting and I could not her on for the rest of the the evening till tomorrow, talking about ****. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Films. Have a lovely week off. We’ll see you. In in April and staying like, stay tuned to for us to give you. Whatever social, social. 

Quinny 

We’ll tell. What’s happening? What’s coming there and everywhere? Thanks for hanging out tonight. Yeah, thank you, everybody. I don’t even think there’s anyone that we can go. So we’ll just say. 

Speaker 

Hey Sir. 

Quinny 

Oh, actually, you know, no, we can go ride Bajo. Go ride. 

Speaker 4 

Alright. 

Dion 

Baja. 

Speaker 4 

Do it. 

Peta 

Say goodbye anyway, bye.