TPToA Podcast 398 – Mickey 17

Transcript 

Dion 

Hello and welcome to the periodic table of awesome. On 25. 

Quinny 

What number I? 

Dion 

Yeah, what? What number do you want to be? 

Peta 

Picked a random one. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. Peter, one there, you. I’m going to be Dion, 25, and you go introduce yourselves tonight because I’m lazy. 

Speaker 

Oh wow. So there we go. Yeah. Yep, Yep. 

Dion 

Oh, there. Great. 

Quinny 

It’s just what number are you? 

Jill 

Me. I’m. I’m Jill 40. Because I die a little each year. 

Dion 

Well, it is. 

Quinny 

Jesus Christ. 

Dion 

It is kind of dark. OK 20. Number are you up to? 

Quinny 

-3. 

Speaker 

What exactly? 

Quinny 

Don’t understand it. Does let.

Dion 

Me just like 3 multiple. How many? Thank you. 

Peta 

I mean, based on Jill’s logic, I think I’m about 99. 

Dion 

Peter, 99, again Jill, 41, Dion, 25, and quinny -3 to be * ****. 

Quinny 

No, I just because that’s where I’m from. From. It’s always -3 in liaweni. Protect the minion gag for you anyway. 

Speaker 

Is it? 

Quinny 

Not from my area. Sorry, I’m not, but it’s still there’s three Tasmanians who listen to this. Thought that was very funny. 

Dion 

Yeah, well, it is about a cold, merciless planet full of weird, weird, weird. Creatures kind of like. 

Jill 

The spoiler alert. Our numbers are our. For later. 

Dion 

Oh wow. 

Quinny 

Serious thinking now. 

Speaker 2 

Oh. 

Dion 

How hateful. Yeah. Well, what are we doing? Someone explain to me what’s what’s this movie that we’re talking about? What? What? What is this? 

Speaker 2 

You’re. You’re so. You’re fine, man. Hey, Mickey. Hey, Mickey. 

Dion 

And it’s not the. 

Jill 

Oh, Mickey, say. 

Peta 

Are you gonna do that 17 Times Now? Like that’ll take a while, yeah. 

Dion 

I’m. I’m I’m I’m just warning you. Will be a. It’s a very Tony Basil heavy show tonight. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. You’re not getting away from that song. 

Dion 

At any opportunity? No. 

Jill 

So it’s a docu biopic about the making of the video clip for hey Nikki. 

Quinny 

Oh my God, this is this is. There’s going to be so much digging in this. 

Dion 

A ducky diet. 

Quinny 

Going to be so full of meaning, no. We’re. The new Bong Joon Ho film Mickey 17, which is based on a book which is called Mickey’s 7. Why there’s an extra 10 in the film, I don’t really know. 

Dion 

Because they gave them, they gave them more opportunity to come up with interesting. 

Jill 

Sound of snappier? Who knows? 

Dion 

And disgusting deaths for their lead character, Robert Pattinsky. 

Peta 

I mean my. 

Jill 

Having instructed staff. 

Peta 

Friend jokes was much better than that. 

Dion 

Well. Fair. I mean I am D on 25. Comedy gets worse every. 

Peta 

4 diminishing returns has really come down hard on. 

Dion 

Yes, yes it has. 

Quinny 

That’s why I’m -3 because I’m still mint. 

Jill 

They keep forgetting to upload the memories back to Dion when he gets reprinted. He keeps doing the same analogies. 

Dion 

Over and over again. And they’re. They just filled it in with AI garbage. 

Peta 

****. 

Quinny 

You know, that’s something liked about. This is the idea that like, yeah, there are at least two or three versions where they’ve reprinted Mickey and they haven’t perhaps printed him, right. Like, you know, they’ve accidentally knocked out a cable on one of the sites. One of the printings. Like maybe, maybe he’s not exactly the same as the Mickey that started. 

Dion 

We’ll get there. I mean, you know, we’ve still got a lot of of things to do. Doing Mickey 17, which we got to go and see. It last week. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

But you did. 

Quinny 

And Peter and I went. Saw it on Sunday. 

Dion 

Oh wow. 

Peta 

Awesome fresh. 

Dion 

Technically, you know, but I start my week on a Monday, so. You know, OK. But it came out. Yeah, we’ve been seeing it. 

Jill 

So we all came out last week, yes. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. The important part is the homework was done. All did the homework. Yes, we’ve all watched. It’s out. You can go and see it too. 

Quinny 

Yes, and what a strange little film it is. I’m fascinated to know where you all at with Bong Joon Ho. 

Jill 

Hated snow, piercer loved parasite. 

Quinny 

Right. 

Jill 

Didn’t watch opja because. Animals. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

We’re ordering animals like I like bacon. 

Dion 

Did you watch parasite in between seeing Mickey 17 and now? 

Jill 

I maybe watched it last night. 

Dion 

Good because yeah. 

Jill 

Because I hadn’t done. And for some weird reason, I thought it was based on a horror manga, but it’s completely not. No, there’s a horror maker called Parasite, and I thought that’s what the movie was about and the poster has, like, everyone with redacted eyes. 

Speaker 

Jill 

Thought it was like some weird horror film, but. 

Dion 

Sure. I mean. 

Jill 

It’s not. 

Dion 

I’m just glad because, like when Jill and I went into last week, it’s like, oh, I haven’t seen parasite now. Like what? Get get the E to a nunnery. 

Quinny 

Sorry, I haven’t seen parasite either. 

Jill 

Oh well, it’s on Netflix. You should have watched it last night. 

Quinny 

Sorry.

Peta 

Before you ask that question. Yeah, exactly. 

Dion 

You haven’t even seen the Sound of Music. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Well, come on, -3. 

Quinny 

Do you want to get all like cool with Bong Joon Ho? I’ve been watching him since 2003.

Jill 

What was your first?

Quinny 

Movie memories of Murder that came out in 2003 and. 

Speaker 2 

It was. 

Quinny 

Yeah. I think one of his first films, one of his first big successful. Sorry, his first film that I can see is barking dogs never bite, which I’ve never seen. But yeah, we’ve done a pretty good line on Director Bong. We’ve watched so back in before the times back before periodic table of awesome, there was another podcast called The Tube. And as a part of that, one of the people really loved Korean film and so. Surprisingly, a lot more Bong Joon Ho than I ever thought I. Going to, there you go. So yeah, we’ve watched memories of murder and mother and the host. And then, yeah, a few years later, he kind of. 

Dion 

Well. 

Quinny 

We didn’t see that much for him for a while, and then Octura and Snowpiercer and all that sort of stuff came out. So yes, I’ve watched a lot of bond drama. Like his stuff. 

Dion 

So you’re in, you’re in an aficiado Ben Quinney, right? 

Quinny 

The 100’s really great. Yes, yes. 

Dion 

Peter, have you seen many Bong Joon Joon Ho films? 

Speaker 

Yes. 

Peta 

I mean parasite. Maybe Snowpiercer and then I erase it from my memory? Not sure. 

Dion 

Sure. Yeah, don’t get. It’s not the flicks television show. 

Peta 

I’m I’m I’m I’m neutral. I’m neutral on the issue. 

Dion 

Neutral run. I don’t have. 

Quinny 

So you you really hated to know Pierce. Jill. 

Jill 

Yeah, I I. Look, it’s been so long since I’ve watched. I don’t remember why I hated it, but it just. Didn’t work for me. 

Dion 

Is that because Chris Evans wasn’t doing good things in that film? 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

I think he was. Fine in the. I don’t think I I didn’t enjoy the premise. 

Speaker 

Dion 

Right, not enough. Shots in that film for Chris Evans. 

Jill 

Don’t reduce me to my face level there. 

Speaker 

Ariana. 

Dion 

Lizard brain, Jill. 

Jill 

The silent green of it all. 

Dion 

Right, right. Fair enough it. It was actually supposed to be more. Do you remember that scene in snipers? And it’s been out for a while, so I’m going to say it anyway. When they opened it up and it was just bugs being all crushed up. It was actually supposed to be the people in from the back of the Karen. 

Jill 

Yeah. No, I assumed that. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, I was figured that that was kind of where they were going. 

Dion 

But it was like, oh man, that’s terrible. 

Quinny 

That idea. 

Jill 

Yeah, because there. I’m pretty sure there was a line in it where he talked about eating. Babies. 

Dion 

Oh yeah, definitely was. Look, Peter leday. 

Speaker 1 

Yeah, yeah. 

Jill 

PETA has a rice to for very particular reason. 

Peta 

Yeah, I’m starting to think maybe I. Haven’t seen it. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Quinny 

Yeah, you don’t train lots of snows. 

Peta 

You are not living much. 

Dion 

They don’t actually eat a baby on screen. They just talked about it as a as a trauma. It’s fine. 

Peta 

There are weird amount of films that actually take place on trains, so like I genuinely can’t remember. If it was the ones I’ve seen. 

Speaker 

This. 

Quinny 

There’s also the confusion that there’s a a series that ran for how many seasons? There’s. Beers as well. 

Dion 

It’s still going. 

Speaker 4 

Hang on, hang on, hang on. 

Quinny 

Is it still for cancellation? 

Speaker 1 

It’s still going. 

Jill 

After 2. 

Dion 

I thought it was like on Series 5. I don’t know. 

Quinny 

I think it got cancelled and then got re picked up. 

Dion 

It. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Quinny 

And I’m just now looking it up. Because like I watched a little bit of it, mostly because I really liked David Diggs. I think he’s a ******* great actor, but yeah, didn’t get into the show as much, even though it has Jennifer Connelly in it. I’m I’m all about her. Four Seasons. Yeah. *** ****. 

Dion 

Yeah, that’s what I was talking about. Was like, let’s go. 

Jill 

How do we realize it? Keep going. 

Dion 

Yeah, the last season just came out last year. 

Jill 

There you go. 

Dion 

Anyway, that’s what I’m talking about. We’re talking about Miki 17. Apart from that, I haven’t like he’s he’s a little thing. Watched maybe 10 minutes of. I just didn’t get around to it. And I’ve seen parasite and I saw the host which I thought was great and I totally do not remember seeing mother or the other one. Were talking about memories of murder, memories about. 

Speaker 

I have. 

Jill 

The Sandra 01. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Dion 

No, it wasn’t the other one. What’s his name? Arnold. 

Quinny 

Oh, no, not you’re thinking of nothing. 

Peta 

Not the roseburn 1. 

Quinny 

Yeah, mother, with an exclamation mark as opposed to just mother. 

Jill 

Oh. No, that’s the Jennifer Lawrence one. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

No, not that. Wasn’t there, Sandra? Oh, this movie about a mother. 

Peta 

Maybe he’s like, oh gosh. 

Dion 

We’re getting very. We need to be talking about Nikki. 

Speaker 

Yes, Sir. Off topic. 

Dion 

Let’s talk about Mickey 17. First of all, we need to go all the way back to talk about Robert Pattinson in Twilight. 

Speaker 2 

Sorry Sir anyway. 

Dion 

Twilight was a series. 

Jill 

Look, I have no respect. 

Peta 

I’ve been going to go all the way back. 

Jill 

I have, in retrospect, an argument that Robert Pattinson was doing genius acting in twilight because there was a book that was not released at the time that was given to him that was called. Midnight sun. It’s it’s all of twilight from Edward’s perspective, where he is like a sociopath. And so I feel like he was playing twilight. Edward. As from the perspective of this book, and we just. 

Speaker 1 

Didn’t know it well, much like. 

Dion 

Large franchise lead male cast who get the role too early and then somewhat become pigeon holed. Robert Pattinson is giving the full Daniel Radcliffe. 

Speaker 

Yes. 

Dion 

By by having a go at just weird ****. Yes. 

Peta 

I mean that there is like, he’s my love of Robert Pattinson. Being weird is is really only slightly secondary to my love of Daniel Radcliffe being weird. So I’m always there for a ride. 

Quinny 

Pattinson hasn’t done like as much stripping and as much weird dancing as as Radcliffe. Radcliffe. 

Dion 

He also hasn’t. He also hasn’t played a dead body that moves around in the ocean with his flatulence. 

Speaker 

Has. 

Quinny 

True, that is true. He has played Batman, which many would say is similar. 

Dion 

Yes. Yeah. 

Peta 

I also feel like he lets the weird leak into his real life a lot more than Daniel does. Significantly more than down to the Dallas. 

Speaker 

Yes. 

Peta 

That’s fine. 

Quinny 

I do love those. 

Peta 

Is there an interesting interview? 

Speaker 

Thank you. 

Quinny 

They both came out of Harry Potter land. You know, both managed to escape the Goblet of fire. 

Speaker 

Sea drink. 

Peta 

Well. 

Dion 

Did he though? 

Quinny 

He’s referring to the franchise. 

Peta 

Do you know who he? 

Jill 

Was in seven films and one was in one, yeah. 

Dion 

Yes. And then there was that. The father of that. Like my boy, they’ve killed my boy. Do you remember this at all? 

Quinny 

I do. Yes, I was referring to the Goblet of fire as the franchise. As you know, the Harry Potter franchise, which is now a bit of a gobbledy. 

Dion 

Oh, OK, not the actual. 

Quinny 

Galous you know? 

Speaker 4 

Oh. 

Quinny 

You know, I was being literary. 

Dion 

Don’t worry, they’re. It so it all blow over. 

Peta 

It was the. Character for which that wouldn’t have worked. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

I’m trying so hard. 

Dion 

I know you. What is Mickey 17 about though? 

Quinny 

So here’s.

Dion 

The thing all of segue into that. 

Quinny 

Right, what? Beautiful. What accent do you? Because there’s, there’s whatever the **** Mickey 17’s accent is. 

Jill 

Well, our Pats was doing a pittsburghian accent, apparently so. 

Dion 

Jill’s inside. That one. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Wow, OK. 

Dion 

Did you want some background music there? Quinny. While you think about your accent. 

Quinny 

Yes, yes, you did accent time. 

Dion 

Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a famous song from Pittsburgh, this is the one that I’m going to be playing for everyone. 

Quinny 

I think it’s gonna be. Generic American with his weird ******* voice. All I’ve got no, sorry. 

Speaker 

Speaker 2 

Nah, I’ll adapted from the novel Mickey 7 by Edward Ashton, this Robert Pattinson. Started as an expendable. Disposable crew member on a space mission. 

Speaker 

And. 

Speaker 2 

He’s selected for dangerous tasks because he can be renewed or reprinted or whatever. If his body dies with his memories largely intact. 

Speaker 

No. 

Speaker 2 

With one regeneration, though, things do go very wrong, and I meet #18, who’s * **** and turns out that things are not as smooth as smooth as all that. 

Jill 

Wow, that was on *****. 

Speaker 

Yes. It’s actually not bad. 

Quinny 

Well, we heard. Lot of him in the film. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah, dear. 

Quinny 

Thanks I. I will take the compliment of it being either uncanny. Not bad. 

Dion 

I’m I’m unsure. 

Peta 

We have like, an entire emote for **** accent. Not. Is is quite confident. 

Dion 

Yeah, part of Kanga busted at like 3 **** accents and then just kind of went, oh, I think that’s all we know. Is actually not bad like I feel like I’m safe this. This is good. 

Speaker 

Not expecting. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Peta 

I first saw the. For this. My first thought in like what? In the uncanny valley. Why does this look like the Robert Pattinson we got on? Like. 

Speaker 2 

This is this is not. 

Speaker 

Not. 

Quinny 

The real Robert Pattinson. 

Dion 

You know, there’s a bunch of scenes. 

Peta 

I’ve been having Tyler going. You said Robert Pattinson. Just somebody who looks like him. What is going on? I don’t know what they did with his hair makeup. Costuming to make him look just that little bit extra odd. 

Quinny 

Even they really played up the broken nose of it. 

Peta 

So now with the echo I’ve now also got Plains. Oh great. Really, lifting the audio game here. 

Dion 

Yeah, you’re right. 

Quinny 

We can’t hear the plane. Fine. 

Speaker 2 

We can only hear you. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I noticed for the first time more than. Like the his his nose. And like his, he looked like he had quite a significant broken nose a few times and I was like. He he definitely didn’t look as pretty as he has. 

Dion 

Well, you know. 

Speaker 

I thought he looked. 

Dion 

Great. Like I saw the trailer when it. Out. I had a lot of like Pep and Zing and energy, and it was a new thing. And I was like, oh, this is great. Then I saw the film and I’m like that trailer lied to me a little. It did not lie to me as much as the trailer for drive, which was not the exciting film that everyone thought it was going to be. But this one was was kind of like, oh, that looks like fun. Like, you know, kind of going. This is not. Well, it’s kind of a. Film, but it’s more of a there. 

Peta 

Are there are lots? Fun elements to the film, yeah. 

Dion 

Sure. But it’s not that. 

Quinny 

It’s not a fun film. 

Peta 

It’s fun to be had. Yeah, yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Peta 

It is a comedy. We laughed. 

Jill 

It was. All the way through. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, I laughed a lot. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Oh, that’s. I mean this is. I also want to say like I enjoyed Mickey 17 from a perspective of Robert Pattinson’s physical comedy that I was not expecting. Because. That was the most unexpected and pleasant thing that came out because we’ve seen. Do you know his breeding teenage heartthrob years and now his action man Batman years? And now it’s like, Oh my God, it’s a very good physical comedian. ‘Cause he fully commits to the bit and I was like this is amazing. And this is all good. 

Peta 

But even as I wouldn’t call him action man for Batman, he’s more emotive at really. 

Dion 

Are you kidding? I think I think he beat people. I didn’t know because it was very dark and I couldn’t see anything actually happening. So and his face was never really there, but I believe that he was beating people up instead of giving his money to programs that could prevent wealth inequality anyway. 

Peta 

I’ve read the physical comedy. The physical comedy was great. I both laughed, but we were the only people in the cinema laughing at several points. 

Quinny 

Doesn’t mean that really concerned me. 

Dion 

Were you the only people in the cinema? At all. 

Quinny 

No, no, it’s ’cause I was thinking. 

Peta 

Space who? 

Quinny 

Yeah, there were quite a few times, especially when he’s being printed. Every time he. He. I laughed. 

Speaker 2 

Oh. 

Dion 

Yeah, I was laughing too, especially. 

Jill 

There’s a great gag because like the old days. Old inkjets? Go. And then, yeah. 

Peta 

Oh my God, none of the other people in the cinema had seen an inject printer. 

Jill 

Full of Gen. Z. 

Peta 

No, I just realised that we would probably be all. People there. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. Nobody else had ever seen a printer got. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

I didn’t get the gag. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

It’s like the. It’s like it’s like people saying old films of someone’s using a typewriter and then like, why are they hitting it? 

Quinny 

Like, just slapping some sense in there. 

Dion 

It’s like you know. It’s like, oh, I like that. It was great, except why they keep hitting the like keyboard and I’m like I will. Yeah, I can’t explain this to you. 

Quinny 

Hmm. Yeah, look, I found it very funny. Like I think it’s got a really weird sense of humor. Like you know, and the sense of humor is just picked up on the whole printer gag now. Yeah. Like the humor is dark, but also like kind of borderline absurdist in a lot of cases. And it’s it’s actors in a lot of cases having a lot of fun playing things real big. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

But I liked it like the comedy there. There’s other parts about the film I didn’t get into, but the comedy I did find work, I mean. 

Peta 

You know, I love some absurd **** like. 

Quinny 

And and it had. 

Dion 

A lot of different kinds of comedy that was thrown in there because, I mean, I really think there was that little bit of absurdist comedy. The game from Robert Pattinson and then you had like the very scenery, eating comedy being thrown out there by Mark Ruffalo. I feel like Toni Collette was almost criminally underused because she was very. She’s a very funny woman. 

Peta 

I mean, it’s trying to. Colette, what are you doing? She’s very funny. 

Jill 

I think there’ll be an Oscar nomination for Mark Ruffalo’s veneers next. 

Quinny 

Yes, 100%. 

Speaker 1 

Peta 

Mean. Yeah, but the fact that. 

Jill 

Season doing a lot of acting. 

Peta 

We’ll leave back that Toni Collette was playing the straightest role in the whole thing was absolutely criminal. 

Quinny 

Lead. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Peta 

I found Mark ruffal. Entirely unabashed, Trump. Umm to be kind of hilarious in this context like. Know what? He’s not hiding what he’s doing. It’s like, right. I don’t care. And also like I mean. There are kind of some things that happen in there. Like you really kind of like hit the jackpot when you shot this in terms of how relevant it has now become. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

I’m. I was just hoping for some sort of Elon Musk metaphor character to be in there and it would have just been perfectly like, yeah, the person in control of the ship on the mission that goes to start a new planet. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

It would have been just icing on the cake, but they didn’t know they weren’t sooth Sayers. 

Quinny 

No. And they they. They got the, they got the religious creepy guy. Who was, you know, always doing the filming? Who? You know, probably a little JD advance, but you know. I mean, you can find parallels where you go looking for them, but in the end like it’s the idea of. A terrible dictator, who in this case has actually done the world a favor by taking a whole bunch of people off the planet. And. 

Dion 

Well, a bunch of religious fundamentalists who decided to follow the cult of personality into space to see life on a new land, which is because Earth is ******. No one’s been bothered to do anything about trying to save it, so everyone’s just leaving it. And then experiencing. Whole ideology of humanity running against alien life, which may not look similar to us but has its own complex narrative, and then being able to use that as a justification for. Cultural and societal change because people are getting trodden on. 

Speaker 

Mm. 

Dion 

That’s a lot of work. 

Quinny 

I do want to shout out to Elska Norga, who said that it’s the B arc, so referencing Hitchhiker’s guide to the Galaxy where they just put all of the telephone sanitisers and hairdressers and stuff onto the the B arc and sent them off into space first and said. Catch up with you. 

Dion 

OK, now for anyone younger than us watching this right now or listening to it. A phone sanitizer was someone who used to go around and clean handset. On public phone, booze and common use. Because that was necessary because people would put **** all over it. You would have to do that. 

Peta 

So for anyone younger than us that’s watching this, a public phone booth. 

Quinny 

You didn’t always have a phone in your pocket. Sometimes there was one that you had to walk. 

Speaker 

Yeah. Oh Gee. 

Peta 

I there was nothing subtle about what this film was saying. You know that sometimes I’m gonna get ****** about that. And sometimes I’m like. Faircl gets absurd. Comedic. It is saying what it’s saying. The Unsubtlety is part of the comedy in this. I was OK with that. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah, I also like. 

Dion 

Did anyone else feel like the 137 minute runtime probably could have been a real tight 80 minute? 

Peta 

We have reached my complaints. 

Speaker 1 

Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no. 

Quinny 

Oh, I love that at least three of us are, like, and now we’re here because we wanted to talk about. 

Jill 

I don’t remember it feeling that long. I was just so. I I. Enjoying, like every moment of the movie, I would. The satire was hitting for me, I thought. Was really. The Robert Pattinson was doing an amazing. I liked all of the the side characters. Everyone had like great little character traits and personalities. 

Quinny 

I really like Robert Pattinson. 

Jill 

And character arcs. Like. 

Quinny 

Mariela Robin Pattinson. 

Jill 

He’s. Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not a. 

Speaker 

Quinny 

Really like Robert Pattinson though. 

Dion 

Which one? 

Jill 

Oh, like 17 times. Hilarious. Good. I did enjoy. I’d like to spoiler alert Mickey 18. I thought the the. Mickey, 18, was a bit of a. And I can’t liked it. 

Peta 

I don’t feel like they somehow managed to print Mickey 18 without his trauma. 

Jill 

Yeah, it was great. 

Speaker 

Well. 

Quinny 

It’s going. 

Peta 

That was the difference. 

Dion 

Back to a little bit earlier when we were talking about. 

Quinny 

What I said before. 

Dion 

The fact that the Mickey’s sometimes they weren’t people with the scientists weren’t paying attention or something went weird and they accidentally unplug something or did something else. I really like that as a as a quiet metaphor for why they were all slightly differe. 

Jill 

Mm. 

Dion 

And then, because we never see Mickey 18 actually getting printed out, I wonder what? What? What’s a? What’s a? 

Jill 

What went wrong? 

Dion 

Yeah. What was the? Did someone spill something on the? Did someone dislodge the? Yeah, yeah, did. 

Jill 

Power outage. 

Dion 

Did someone turn around and knock the brick out of the machine? It just didn’t like, didn’t print his ******* empathy. Shoved it back in its like, sure, off we go. 

Quinny 

But also it had happened. Because Mickey Fire apparently was a **** **** **** too. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

You’re like, yeah. Oh, OK. 

Dion 

Learning that in through the girlfriend and imagine like. You know. People who are in a relationship that might feel a bit stale, a stale might be alright to have a part, an intimate partner that just keeps getting printed out every now and again just get a new version. Sometimes you might like them and sometimes you. 

Quinny 

Might not. 

Jill 

I’d quite like the gag, which you found two of them, and. 

Peta 

I kind of really. 

Jill 

Like oh. Let’s take that box on to the fantasy list. 

Peta 

I kind. I really enjoyed how they played that element of the story in the end because it was actually like quite a. 

Speaker 

Hi. 

Peta 

A sweet little love story. Between her and the Mickey’s, and even that little thing was, I guess, saying something that was quite nice about. Human intimacy and the wholeness of love, I guess for another person or whatever version of them. You get that day. It can all be slightly different versions. Slightly different days, but I like that they kind of leaned into that quite heavily for her character and and what that meant for the plot. I thought it was quite sweet. But yeah. I was having a fun time as. I was like, I was like, this is a fun time. It could have been a fun 90 minute time. It didn’t need to be a fun two hours and 20 minutes, I don’t think. And it kind of feels felt like the plot kept plotting at some point, just to kind of like. I don’t know. Give it kind of like a blockbuster sci-fi feel instead of what it was, which was a Cesaro absurd comedy, and it could have said everything that it said just a little bit. 

Jill 

Oh, I just realised what it reminds me of. Reminds me of a Wes Anderson film. You know you have a weird cast of very quirky characters all doing bizarre and and funny things, and like the color palettes were interesting for each scene and. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Yeah, it wasn’t like as otterous as was Anderson, but like the quirkiness that you find in film. It’s like what I found prevalent in this movie. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Jill 

Back in my. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

I’m like, what’s this remind me of? 

Quinny 

Yeah, like it’s got the the not the necessarily the visual aesthetic like it doesn’t have that super bright thing, but it has a kind of, yeah, a quirkiness and a willful quirkiness. 

Speaker 

No. 

Quinny 

I’m. I’m totally with you, Pete, on that whole thing of like. There are there are sections that could have been cut back on. Or like there’s a dinner sequence. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

That I was like ******* this is this is hanging on a bit like really. 

Peta 

It was also like an entire character that seemed like she was going to be a big. And then she just completely disappeared for, like, the last half hour of the movie that I thought was really weird. 

Jill 

That’s. 

Dion 

But that’s because that introduced the Chekhov’s tardigrade. That they did at the same. How do we explain that? Yeah. What is it? Space tetegruates they seem to be like everywhere and fun. You know, by the end of. I like space. 

Quinny 

Just feel. 

Speaker 1 

Here we go. 

Dion 

Just feel like that. That was a whole movie on itself, like we’re following. 

Speaker 

Play. 

Dion 

Why are we now on the space tardigrades? This could have been the Mickey sequel, like Mickey 17 again. 

Peta 

No, I like the space tiger grades. Think that that was a. 

Speaker 

Key. 

Peta 

A key element, and I think the movie would have worked at all without the space tigers. But there was, like there probably more happened with the space tide of grades than necessarily needed to. 

Quinny 

Things things really extended out towards the end with the space data grades, and there was an awful lot of running around. Yeah. 

Peta 

Lots of space tile plates. 

Jill 

Yeah. I’m wondering if maybe there was another way we could have escalated the plot that didn’t revolve around the creatures. 

Dion 

Yeah, like you know, when you got to the Tartar tornado, I don’t know how to make that a thing. Wait, no, that sounds about tardigrade tornado. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Jill 

If we had maybe contained it to to Mickey’s storyline and character development, you know, with his run in with the the Loan Sharks and stuff. Yeah, we’re chasing him from the start. The film, and maybe wrapped it up that way. I don’t. ‘Cause we kind of we left that thread with Stephen Yoon’s character and then it. 

Peta 

Would have done the same things. 

Jill 

Didn’t really end up. Going anywhere with any kind of resolution for us? 

Speaker 

But then. 

Dion 

But then we wouldn’t have got the whole meat is murder thing and people need to stop consuming animals. You know, emotions in order to turn them into sources because. 

Jill 

I know that source. 

Peta 

We also like kind of like started a Nazi thread, but then we kind of left behind that I thought was going to become the plot. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Kind of about. They rocked up wearing Hugo Boss and I was like, OK. 

Dion 

I don’t think. 

Jill 

The the source thing was pushed hard enough as a character trait for Toni Collette. 

Quinny 

That was introduced very late. 

Speaker 

That was like. 

Jill 

Yeah, it was just kind of. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Periphery. 

Quinny 

Like it’s a. 

Peta 

And then that. 

Quinny 

Funny line. And I love the concept. It’s like. 

Peta 

There’s like a scene at the end that’s kind of like, oh, what? Why was what? Why was that there like I? 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Love the concept of you know, the thing that separates us from the lower animals and stuff is our ability to use condiments. That’s ******* hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, but. 

Dion 

I mean, it could. It could have introduced it earlier as they were because we introduced by that revolves Trumpish character at the start going. It’s a cult of personality and she could have been selling sources on Earth. 

Jill 

Yes, it didn’t feel like it was a hard enough personality trait for her. 

Dion 

It it felt. I got a feeling of a lot of Christopher guest Ish kind of ensemble cast idea that was going around like we need these individuals that are good actors and we want them to create wild characters that are memorable because they’ve got a hook. But then it it was also. But we’re following one character. We need to be like that works when you’re following a lot of different explanations and you know, figuring out how weird it all is. And this one is like, no, this is about Mickey though. We always have. Keep coming back to Mickey. What about? You know, and it’s like cool. He. Or is he maybe just printed wrong, you know? 

Peta 

I mean, for me, it’s got a little bit of the Argyle to it as well where it’s kind of like starts off fun but then throws too many ideas at it towards the end. 

Jill 

Oh. 

Dion 

Wow. I mean, I thought it was way better than. 

Peta 

Way better than Argyle. And I was having much more fun when the extra ideas came in and was kind of willing to stay with it at that. But it does kind of have that kind of like, you know, feels like it kind of loses its focus a little bit halfway to the second act and is kind of throwing a lot. A lot at it. When the material and the performances and the concept were kind of funny enough to kind of actually. Simpler and and cleaner. 

Quinny 

I also thought it had a bit of the the Lord of the Rings about it too, that it had too many endings like oh, you know, we kind of got to a point where the we’d gotten to the the point where we’ve we’ve got a resolution. 

Jill 

Oh. 

Peta 

Yeah, did have a few moments. 

Quinny 

And then we’ve kind of explaining where people have ended up. Then there was another. And then there was another thing, and I and I was I was about to go. I’m about done guys. I don’t think I really need. A weird secondary flashback here or whatever I’m I would have been perfectly fine without that. Thanks. But yeah, like but we got it because Tony collected another scene. 

Dion 

But we got that anyway. Well, yeah, I. 

Jill 

But there was about like 2/3 of the way through the movie. Another flashback and I can’t remember what it was ’cause like at the start. You find out like, why Mickey and? I really forgotten Steve Minuchin’s character’s. Why they left? Earth. In like a flashback kind of perspective. And then you get like all of his like reminiscing about his earlier versions and how they all got to where they were now. Then there was another one. After the plot was progressing. Flashback. 

Dion 

I can’t remember what it was. 

Peta 

Childhood trauma. There was a shot of the magic. 

Dion 

Yes, that’s right, the show. 

Peta 

He gets. 

Jill 

Yeah. And I’m like, why did you put it? 

Peta 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Here, why didn’t you put it? All of the flashback. Because now we’ve kind of moved on. I don’t know why they. 

Dion 

Yeah. Which is the trauma is the trauma from the sound of the chains. 

Jill 

Did another one again if. Yeah, felt jarring. 

Dion 

Chains or double chains or I don’t? That was kind of weird with a speaker on it for some reason. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yes. 

Jill 

Yeah, it just kind of came out of. I’m like, oh, we’re getting more back story. Like 2/3 of the way through the movie. Yeah, that didn’t make. To me. 

Quinny 

And and yeah, there were. Like, there was a sequence where they kind of. Back. To like the start of the film. Character you’re after was Timo. Like when Mickey’s down the crevasse and like you start the film with your cold open, then you go through a bit of an explanation. You catch back up to it and I thought I was like, Yep, cool. We don’t need to do the whole scene again. I think we can. 

Speaker 

Did it. 

Dion 

Is it? Is it just me or? Make it feel like a little bit like a telly movie. Like, I felt that this was that was a bit of a TV conceit because it’s only used once. You’re not jumping timelines if you’re going to start jumping timelines in something, you need to keep doing that. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

You can’t just do it once and then be like, Oh yeah. See, that was funny, wasn’t it? Did this little jump thing. It’s like no. No, I want to. That. Progression because it’s funny enough. 

Jill 

Like that one week earlier. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. And that’s how I got here. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. He may be wondering. 

Quinny 

How I. 

Dion 

Got here. No, I was. Just tell me how you. There. Yeah, yeah. 

Jill 

Anyway. 

Speaker 

Should we write it? 

Jill 

Do we have a clue? 

Dion 

Sure. I got a clip. I’ve got 2 clips. Is either. What is it Pennsylvanian? No Christopher Patterson. 

Quinny 

Yet Pennsylvania and Patterson. 

Jill 

Fitzpatrick, Ian. 

Dion 

Yeah, Pennsylvanian, which is Mickey 18, right? And Pittsburghy and Mickey having a little bit of a tie to date or I’ve got Mark Ruffalo eating everything around. 

Quinny 

All the scenery, all the scenery. 

Speaker 

All. 

Jill 

All good with either. 

Dion 

Look, I’ll, I’ll start. I had a fun time mostly, but it was more like, Oh yeah, this is kind of amusing and this is this is great. Had a couple of interesting ideas which I which I felt were really good conceit, not explored thoroughly enough to make you stop and think about it, but also, I’m just really happy. All of those people are now living on that planet. Millions of miles away from the earth. Even Mickey in the end, I’m just kind of like I’m actually happy he’s gone. But I am scared about the future society that will literally just if you have a debt, will track you down across a Galaxy just to make you pay. And that was the thing that scared me the most. Anyway, look 65 for me. 

Speaker 

Dion 

Yeah, it’s, it’s not as bad as. People have complained about. Actually, quite entertaining. 

Quinny 

Right. OK. I’ll go next, because **** it, why not? Because I never do. Like it? I liked it a lot. It’s a fun, big visual story with lots of great design work. Like I think the the monsters or the monsters. The tardigrades are cute, but at the same time appropriately squishy and fun, like there’s a lot of good body horror and stuff. Of all the way through. And the idea is entertaining enough, and it explored pretty. I think Moon did it almost similar sort of thing, but on a very different style. Of multiple versions of the one person. But yeah, overstays it’s welcome. Like I I really enjoyed it, but would have enjoyed it a hell of a lot more if we trimmed you know, 20 to 30 minutes out of it. I don’t know where from, but I’ve got a few suggestions. So I’m going to give it 80 because I actually really enjoyed it. 

Speaker 

Skype. 

Jill 

Peter, you go me. 

Peta 

Yeah. OK, I. I also like I had enough. Had enough fun? I I had enough fun that even when I was kind of like meh. This is maybe too much of this brand of fun. It it didn’t make me too mad. Like I said, I mean the absurdism, the witness that that kind of does it for me. Like I’m all good with that ****. I think for me it was. Just the kind of like. Trying to do a bit too much with the big blockbusteriness and in the process of doing that didn’t do quite enough actually with the point the satire could have been making. In, in the kind of a more you know, simple and elegant way with with the concept that I had. Such a weird complaint about a movie. I have fun. Fun is good 78. 

Speaker 

Nice. 

Jill 

I I had a lot of fun as soon as I got out, I told my friends to go and watch it because I thought it was just so good. Yeah, there’s like a few things that. You know, could be improved and we all touched on that tonight. What was I going to say? I ****, I forgot what I was gonna say, but it doesn’t matter. I liked it. 

Quinny 

It’s OK. We’ll bring in Jill 2042. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

I need chill for. 

Dion 

And she’ll have the answer for us. Yes, and. 

Jill 

As well as the meaning of life. I’ll give it. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Quinny 

Nice. Wow. 

Dion 

I was. I was the lowest. 

Peta 

Yeah, I mean, 65 is pretty low for our standards down. 

Speaker 

By quite. 

Speaker 1 

No, it’s not. 

Dion 

It’s just what I feel at at the time. 

Speaker 

Yes, Sir, all. 

Peta 

No, it’s not. Of our routing systems are fickle and changeable, and based on how we. On the day. 

Dion 

Yeah, all reviews are. It doesn’t mean anything. You may say something. 

Quinny 

You absolutely love it. 

Jill 

And I mean like when I went in, my only experience of Bong Joon Ho was no PSA. So. Was like, I really don’t like. 

Speaker 

No. 

Jill 

Movie. But the trailer for this looked cool. So I. It’s. And then, yeah, it’s funny on my head. Was great. 

Dion 

And now you’ve seen parasite. 

Jill 

Yeah. I mean Mickey 17. Doesn’t by any means like blow your knickers off. But it was a lot of fun. And just like a little jaunt. 

Dion 

Sean. 

Quinny 

I do love that Bong Joon Ho has some thematic stuff that he’s clearly really into. 

Dion 

Really. Does he? 

Peta 

Like. 

Quinny 

I’d like to. About the. Class. Yeah. I’d like to talk about eating the. I’d like to talk about the rich eating the poor. I’d like to talk about, you know, people in power doing terrible things. I’m like, thank you. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. 

Quinny 

Work. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Love your work. 

Jill 

Animal rights. 

Dion 

Yes, Speaking of that, do we want to have a look at Mark Ruffalo’s terrible society, or do we want to look at our pets? You know, acting against each other much like Lord of the Rings? Gollum. Smeagol thing. Go our. All right. We’ll go to this. This is this is the two Mickey’s having a chat. Hey, Mickey, there. So fun. 

Speaker 

Are you afraid to die? 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Speaker 4 

You’ve had plenty of times. 

Speaker 

What are you so scared of? 

Speaker 4 

Tell Mom I died. Born again? No. It felt like it was me continuing on. But now? Once I die. It’ll be over. For me. Help you living? You get what I mean. Back. 

Speaker 2 

I don’t like you. 

Speaker 

She’s such a little *****. 

Speaker 4 

But I’m you. I’m not you. I’m not going to live like you. 

Speaker 

I’m gonna kill you. Oh, no, you can’t do that to the Mickey. 

Dion 

Can’t kill yourself, you know. 

Quinny 

It in the bin Mickey. 

Dion 

I mean. Hang on, let’s, let’s. 

Quinny 

You cannot. If your Mickey was going in the kiln, would you get in the kiln with him? Get in the kiln. 

Dion 

Get in the kiln, Mickey. Sorry, that was. I’ve done a reference. I put the spoiler Lego up. This is. Now look, it’s an interesting for a film that’s full of ideas and and and things that it’s asking you to pay attention to. I feel like it didn’t pay attention enough to the more interesting. Things that are posited, which was, hey, they developed a technology where people could basically 3D print themselves. And the first thing that someone did with that was started committing crimes. That is. There is your elevator pitch to the world right now for a very interesting. We finally got enough technology to start 3D printing ourselves and the per the scientist who who discovered that or did that first? First thing they did was became a mass murderer. Like I’m down for this. You know, just going to commit crimes. 

Jill 

Not what I would have done, but. 

Quinny 

No. Yeah. 

Dion 

And then in this one, it puts out the thing of like, hey, you know what, if you kill yourself, is it murder or is it not really murder? You know it’s you also, if you have a threesome with yourself, is that just ************ or is it incest? 

Speaker 

I was like. 

Quinny 

Feels like. 

Jill 

You’re not actually related to yourself. 

Quinny 

No. 

Dion 

But you are yourself. 

Speaker 

So. Yeah. 

Peta 

From a genetics perspective. 

Dion 

Yeah, and and and if you if there’s slight variation between, does that make you? 

Speaker 

Like. 

Jill 

Can’t procreate with yourself? 

Quinny 

No, no, I mean, sorry. 

Jill 

There’s no danger. 

Quinny 

It’s just, it’s just really, really over the top ************. Well, you know, anyway, extreme ************. 

Dion 

Right. 

Speaker 2 

It. 

Dion 

All these questions are not answered and more in Mickey 17. It puts them out there and then just doesn’t answer them. 

Quinny 

I kind of like that though. Like. It’s just like, here’s a bunch of ethical and moral quandaries that we’re going to let you Mull over, but we’re not going to. 

Dion 

Give you any answers to them in a way like that’s what society had become like instead of trying to fix things people left. What happens if you follow the cult of personality all the way through to the end goal, which is colonizing other planets and living in that Colt and starting a new generation? Does that look like you know? 

Peta 

It was less instead of trying to fix things, people left. It’s it was that. Interests were discouraging the fixing of things and encouraging the leaving. I’m assuming for commercial gain like there was a particular line in the in the beginning that kind of made it clear that there was a particular kind of movement. Of don’t ******* fix it. Pay us to put you on another planet. Yeah. So again, like the power of capitalism, I think. Is a driving force. Then. 

Dion 

Yeah, and feeding. I mean like the the ego at the top of capitalism was a great thing in the movie. Which was. Yeah, it’s a Trump. It’s like, what would Trump do? Wouldn’t fix. Trump would just decide to get idiots together to pay him to take them to another planet where he ruled like a God. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Ta. And I do love the the idea that this is, you know, the 3D printing humans is completely illegal except out in space. It’s like everything’s legal in New Jersey. 

Dion 

Well, I mean, it’s also the fact that he made the exemption for that by. Going it could be used for purposes of research. We should explore that, but just not here. Do it in space where it doesn’t affect anyone here. I mean, that was really interesting. 

Quinny 

Too, yes, international waters? Precisely. 

Dion 

Yeah, international interplanetary. 

Jill 

Intergalactical. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Peta 

Did you enjoy the? Trump esque. Suggestive, almost Nazi salute moment that was. 

Quinny 

Oh, there’s a lot of fun finger and then a couple of other fingers. And then there are other fingers coming in and you’re like, oh. 

Peta 

Incredibly, Elon Musk. 

Dion 

How many do we go? I’m. I’m just saying hi. Yeah. 

Quinny 

And that’s the thing. Like when they made this what I’m assuming? 

Peta 

They would have shot that year year ago at least. I mean, there’s a lot of effects like. 

Speaker 

It’s. 

Quinny 

Actually pushed back quite a long way too. Like it was meant to release a year and a. 

Dion 

Bit ago it’s 20. It was done in 2022. 

Speaker 

Oh wow. 

Dion 

But he’d. 

Quinny 

Yeah, there you go. 

Dion 

He’d I think Trump was already announced as running. 

Peta 

Yeah, but it’s more the echo of the recent Elon Musk moment than it’s. 

Dion 

There was. There was. Other this was a long time before. 

Quinny 

Exactly. Yeah, like it’s a pretty impressive swing to to, you know, well, he’s impressive. Maybe not to imagine that people might start ******* again, but. Here we are so. There’s a. Yeah, I. Enjoy the fact that it’s it’s about ideas and I love my sci-fi when it’s about ideas you know and asking really weird questions like. If you if you can’t die, what are the moral implications of you being lied to about your death? You know, or if you if you can die over and over and. Again is. Is it morally wrong to use you to create? A pathogen or. 

Dion 

Jesus, yeah. 

Jill 

Well, I mean, it was in the terms and conditions. You gotta read your your new apple. 

Peta 

Read the fine print. 

Jill 

IOS, when you sign up. 

Speaker 

I mean. 

Dion 

If it was a saving grace that I really enjoyed about the film itch, like for a while there I wasn’t believing Mickey and. And I’m national nasha’s, you know, relationship for a long while there until it got more explained how caring she was about him and how a lot of the things she because she was seeing her partner die over and over and over again. 

Speaker 

Nasha. Hmm. 

Dion 

And that was just his job. But the tenderness and the ability to be with that person as they die all the time like that would have been massively traumatic for her. When you think about it. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Dion 

And that was when you start to get like I thought, ideas were really. Like these were good reasonings and justifications, and I could understand stuff when it wasn’t presented that way. And they held it off a little bit too long. Was like, Oh well, that’s good. Like like. 

Peta 

Yeah, it came. It came in a little late. Yeah, because it was one of my favourite kind of things about it in the end. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Peta 

Yeah. And what happened to what? Happened to what’s her name? The other woman, who was at the dinner. 

Quinny 

Kai. 

Peta 

Like disappeared. 

Quinny 

Kai, who was sometimes you know, was obviously intended to be a bisexual lady who was attracted to both Mickey or whatever. I don’t know. She seemed to extricate herself from the plot at one point. 

Peta 

Why did she entirely disappear from? Plot at one point. Anyway, spoilers, but these aren’t like actual spoilers. That you will ask yourself while watching the film. 

Dion 

She returned at the end, though, in a in a healthy relationship with someone else. 

Peta 

Yeah, but, but what was the point of her? 

Dion 

Even though, yeah. I don’t know what was the point of anyone like, you know, they were punishing this guy with not giving him food for ages when he did something wrong. Which? Which is another kind of thing there about class structure in society. Because everyone got had to eat terrible, ****** meals for the whole time. For the. People in charge who just kept eating. Like regular folk and, you know, denying food to people as a weapon. 

Peta 

Sauce. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Peta 

It says thanks. 

Dion 

Yeah, it’s got lots. 

Quinny 

It does say things I also felt like. There was a point where the end where they like, they’re rolling out on these big tank things and with the intent of having some big stand off with. The the Queen tardigrade, as it were. 

Dion 

And it’s all just objects. 

Speaker 

I felt it. 

Dion 

Sorry, I love that it was all just optics. They didn’t have a. They didn’t know what they were doing, but it would look good. Like all they wanted to do was make something that looked good. Make this guy look good. 

Quinny 

And yeah, it ended up being oddly anticlimactic. Was like. Yep, you never actually got anywhere near it. You didn’t get your video, and now you’ve been blown up? Cool. I mean felt appropriate for how I want that guy to go. But you know. 

Dion 

Yeah. And then they fridge the female character, Toni Collette. And then the return of the female character in a flashback. Was it a flashback? I don’t know. Criminally. See, This is why I got down to 65. But I still, like you know, had great, great movement of the the 3D printing of him and the way he fell out of that thing a couple of times. Thought man Robert Pattinson must have had a lot of massage and yoga and been very relaxed. Been a soft floor in the set those days. Yeah. Did anyone else like the scientist characters? 

Jill 

Yes, I liked Dorothy. 

Dion 

Yeah, I like. I also like the other scientist characters because they were like they also didn’t have empathy enough, and that was funny too, because they were just about the science. Yeah, you know, they’re just about like, we just need to like, especially when he’s outside. The first time. Then like we just. You to take your helmet off. What? 

Quinny 

Deep breaths. 

Dion 

‘S your dead. 

Speaker 2 

Deep breaths. 

Dion 

The radiation’s already. You just explain that to us so that we can get as much data as we can before we print you out. God. 

Speaker 

That’s why. 

Dion 

But that. What a corporation would do that had no morals. 

Quinny 

What I do wonder is like the whole concept that he has been. He gets reprinted each time and his memories get re uploaded but. From what point like? Is he being like because he can? I assume can remember his death? 

Peta 

Can you remind me to please? Yes. So I’m assuming there’s some kind of like instant linkage, instant link back to the yeah. 

Dion 

No, they. I think they explained it somewhere along that line, which is. 

Jill 

It was a point where he was explaining how he remembered his death ’cause. I was thinking the same thing. 

Dion 

Yeah. It gets backed. Yeah, it gets backed up each day. But. Whether or not. It also depends on when he like how long he’s from his death, that he that he gets backed up and stuff. 

Jill 

Yeah, I think it was when Timo asked him. 

Dion 

Who knows? 

Jill 

Then he’s like, do you remember dying every time? 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Then that was when. 

Peta 

I mean, I was just assuming some kind of cloud situation. 

Dion 

They explained all that in altered carbon, which is on Netflix, you can go on, you know, if you want to, if you want to know how that is, that’s another one that talks about very, very rich people who get to live forever. 

Speaker 

Which? 

Dion 

That’s. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, it’s actually a good series. 

Quinny 

Well, the first season is second season. 

Jill 

Yeah, I didn’t get through Anthony Mackey season. 

Dion 

You’d leave Anthony Mackie alone. A really good dude. Just seems to be in terrible properties. 

Jill 

This is under utilized. No, you know. He’s great in that metal one. 

Quinny 

Old twisted metal, which can get twisted metal. 

Jill 

Twisted metal looks. I love that stupid show. 

Quinny 

I saw a trailer for season 2 for that the other day and I’m. Oh **** yeah. 

Dion 

They got a second season, OK. 

Peta 

And. 

Quinny 

They got a second season and and and what’s more, they’re going more into the the game stuff that it’s more about. Like a big carnage driving into like, what do you call it a? 

Speaker 

Nice. 

Quinny 

Yeah, like a roller Derby, yeah. Gladiatorial Arena accepted cars. 

Jill 

Monster trucks. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

Demolition Derby. 

Quinny 

Demolition Derby, but like so essentially finally getting to what the game was. Which is, yeah. 

Jill 

Cool. 

Dion 

Thank God a video game property has. Accurate. Great stuff. We are looking forward to Witcher season 4. Sorry, it’s got nothing to do with Mickey 17. You’re just saying things about sequels and numbers, and I got distracted by myself. 

Quinny 

Sorry, I did go off on a tangent because we’re talking about twisted metal, but I do feel like maybe. 

Jill 

I thought. Had finished talking about. 

Quinny 

I was gonna say I feel like perhaps you haven’t covered everything there is to cover. 

Dion 

We’ve covered all that. 

Jill 

Yeah, go watch it if you haven’t. 

Peta 

But yeah, it’s fun. Yeah. 

Dion 

With popcorn like it’s great. Good times. What are we doing next week? 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

What are we? 

Dion 

Oh, that’s. Together with the electric state. 

Speaker 1 

Oh wow. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Dion 

OK guys, good advantage. 

Quinny 

I just like Jill’s face. Oh, I’m saying, Chris. 

Dion 

Come on, fill the room. 

Jill 

Pratt movie. 

Dion 

No, no, no, no, this is. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Peta 

I’m still. What am I supposed to watch? 

Dion 

This is the Millie Bobby Brown movie. It’s Millie, Bobby Brown MBB or the other. 

Jill 

Oh. So we just ignore the other guy. 

Dion 

Yeah, don’t worry about CT. 

Quinny 

So it’s. 

Dion 

Focused on MPB, wait. 

Quinny 

Looking like being the most expensive film that Netflix has made. 

Jill 

Even more than that will. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Jill 

One that cost him a billion dollars. 

Dion 

What was that one? 

Jill 

The first one that bright, yeah. 

Quinny 

Right. 

Dion 

Was it? That wasn’t a billion dollars? 

Jill 

It was something stupid like that. 

Quinny 

It was very ******* high. But I think yeah, this is this is one of those ones that everyone’s like Netflix. Are you OK? You appear to be spending a **** ton of money. 

Dion 

But it’s Anthony Russo and Joe Russo, the Russo brothers. 

Jill 

Are the Russo brothers? 

Speaker 2 

Yeah. 

Jill 

I’ll give it a chance. 

Quinny 

It’s got Bryant only had a budget of about somewhere between 90 and 100 million hundred and 5 million, so not actually that high for a big budget movie. But at the time for a streamer it was a stupid amount of money. 

Dion 

Yeah. I also want you to know that this one, the electric state that we’re reviewing next week, had a budget of $320 million and also has Anthony Mackie in it. Yeah, I. I’m just reading through the cards quickly and it’s like, wait, Stanley Tucci, Giancarlo Esposito, Brian Cox, Anthony Mackie, Woody Harrelson. Like what? And then I remember that most of his animated, and they’re probably all robot voices, which is like, right. 

Jill 

Yeah, that makes more sense. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

Jill 

It’s going to be. An if situation. 

Dion 

Yes. Yeah. Well, the voice. Yeah. The voices that are in there are Woody Harrelson, Anthony Mackie, Brian Cox, Jenny Slate, Alan Tudyk and Kazaria Coleman Domingo. And then other people. Don’t actually know. 

Speaker 

Quinny 

Hmm. 

Peta 

This is the first time hearing of this movie and I definitely have been reading our chats properly. 

Dion 

Well, don’t worry. It’s on Netflix from this Friday. 

Peta 

Check it out. 

Jill 

Yeah, they’ve only just really started advertising it on billboards and stuff this last week, so. Yeah, don’t be too worried about not being. 

Dion 

Yep. 

Jill 

On it. 

Dion 

I was like worrying too. We all love Alan Tudyk and I’m hanging out for April because guess who comes back in April. K2. That’s right. Alan Tudyk Droid is in season 2 of Andor. 

Quinny 

I find your Ellen to strangle. 

Dion 

I hope. Get like AK-2. So origin story in one of the episodes. Would be great. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

I’m hoping to get to full three season 3 Series. 

Dion 

Arc three series. You know there is no more series. 

Jill 

Spin off, spin off. 

Quinny 

Quit 3 episodes is what I meant. 

Dion 

Been off his own off. 

Jill 

2SS spin off, spinning everything off. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I’m there. 

Dion 

I mean this is this is what I. Like you know, some people are unhappy about the fact that they can’t watch Rogue one because everyone dies. I’m like, that’s the beauty of this thing. Bottled it’s. It’s a start and finish and you have to love it for the moment that it’s there and then let it go. Much like Mickey’s Mickey, 17, you love him for the moment. 

Speaker 

It’s like a firework. 

Dion 

There and then, he’s probably gonna die, so you gotta. Him go. 

Speaker 

It’s. 

Quinny 

So just a little thing on the electric state, a while ago we did a review of a series called in the loop. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Which was on Amazon Prime, and it was a weird anthology series. 

Jill 

Yes, yes. 

Quinny 

So the the designs that that was based on are all done by a guy called Simon Stalenburg. The electric state is based on his design work. 

Speaker 2 

Yes. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Quinny 

Like it’s all about these giant robots and. Semi apocalyptic American grassland kind of thing with all these rusting old robot hulks and stuff. 

Speaker 

Jill 

Well, maybe I can be a little bit more on board about this. That’s what. 

Quinny 

Like the trailers kind of look OK, whatever. But the designs. 

Speaker 

I thought it was. 

Jill 

A bit like what was that? That IP catchall Steven Spielberg movie. 

Dion 

Oh, the Ready Player 1. 

Quinny 

Ready Player 1. 

Jill 

Yes, that’s what the vibes I was getting. 

Peta 

IP catch all Steven Spielberg movie for adaptation of the book. 

Speaker 

Perfect. 

Jill 

I think my explanation was accurate. 

Dion 

No, don’t. Don’t worry. 

Quinny 

Nailed it on that one. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Dion 

100%. 

Speaker 

It’s like. 

Dion 

I’m going to. You’re like one of those super fishing tankers that just drag Nets 400 kilometers of open and just pulls it all out and goes. You want this, right? It’s too much. What am I going to do all these? Most of it’s ****. It’s like. Don’t worry. Ready Player 2’s coming. I think. I think it’s still in development, but. 

Speaker 2 

Oh yeah, I know. 

Dion 

You’re right. 

Speaker 

The. 

Quinny 

Book was, by all accounts ******* terrible, like. I mean shoe. 

Dion 

Book already player 1. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Ready. Player 2 was like everybody was like, oh, ready Player one has a certain kind of nostalgic thing that that appealed to a certain a particular group of **********, Judds and me. 

Jill 

Vanessa qua. 

Peta 

I mean, I didn’t hate it, but yes, continue. 

Quinny 

I didn’t hate it. I didn’t hate it as I read. I hated it when I listened to Will, Wheaton narrated. And then when you listen to somebody say it out loud, you’re. This guy is an insufferable **** ***. Who just spends the entire book telling you how good he is at everything. 

Dion 

Spielberg will not direct the sequel, but he will produce. 

Speaker 

Dion 

So obviously it’s sitting in the development hell of like I have. Have the rights to this. Who wants to come along and make this thing before the rats run out? Right. But Steven Spielberg’s like? Nah, I want to direct that. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

I mean, yeah, but yeah, the sequel book, everybody, even, even the the Unbuckles, have said not fun. A good follow up. Not enjoyable. 

Dion 

Speaking of book sequels to films like, You Know, Sorry, like Willow, what’s the second one? Laura Dernen book. 

Quinny 

Oh, it was a sequel to the what? 

Dion 

Yes, yes, the goes. 

Quinny 

They didn’t adapt into the hugely successful TV series. 

Dion 

No. And then there was one about The Princess Bride. Oh where Buttercup grows up, yeah. 

Quinny 

Yes. 

Jill 

Oh no, that sounds terrible. 

Dion 

Although the funny one, did anyone like see Star Wars? And then, you know, go out and read Splinter of the Minds Eye, which was the the book that was the sequel written at the time before he’d even written Empire Strikes Back and was turning into a trilogy. So. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Jill 

Oh wow. 

Dion 

There’s some weird **** that goes on. Luke and Leia do hook up. 

Speaker 

Dion 

Yeah. Anyway, it’s Canon. It really. It’s called Splinter of the Mind’s eye. Can read it if you like. Masochism. 

Speaker 

Is. 

Quinny 

Equal to The Princess Bride. Called butter cups, baby. 

Dion 

That’s it, buttercup’s baby. 

Quinny 

EW, yeah. 

Dion 

And then there is another book. There’s a sequel to Willow in book form, I believe. Written by Chris Claremont. 

Speaker 

Really. 

Dion 

I think so. Correct me if I’m. I mean, I’m doing this off memory. And I never said that to Chris Claremont’s face because I wasn’t going to challenge it when I met him once. 

Peta 

Right. 

Dion 

Am I right? Have you looked it up? 

Quinny 

Is that truly due of sequel fantasy novel was published for Willow The Chronicles of the Shadow War by Chris. 

Dion 

Safety. Exactly. Was it by Krylis Clermont? You very much. 

Speaker 2 

Brown. 

Quinny 

I mean, I hope they were better. That TV series. 

Dion 

I don’t think so. Because if. Because if they were any good, I think that they would have been mined for content for that TV show, which. 

Quinny 

Pete, you’ll be. Are we getting more wheel of time sometime soon? You’ve gone club. 

Peta 

What a great, good job on this second season, although like it’s Amazon and. 

Speaker 

I’m. 

Peta 

Having some issues. With support there. 

Dion 

Everyone getting around Reacher season 2. 

Jill 

Oh, I’m giving it a good old recharge. 

Dion 

Is it season 2 or season 3? Remember 3 I think. It 3. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Sorry, apologies for that. 

Jill 

Three. Yeah, I’ve got 5 episodes out. Dropping on Thursdays now. Yeah, I I really enjoyed the book that it’s based on. So I’m enjoying seeing it in TV form. 

Dion 

When I watched it. Yeah, I’m. Enjoying the ads that are coming up now. I’m like, oh, that’s. 

Jill 

At least they’re kind of placing them in like. 

Speaker 1 

Yeah, but then. 

Jill 

Looks. 

Dion 

Like one of The thing is, there’s absolutely 0 tonal reckon like recommendation for. It is just out of left. It’s just kind of like, hey, toilet duck. Let’s talk about that for 43 seconds and. 

Jill 

You’re like, oh, when I was watching the Batman episodes, an ad would pop up in the middle of somebody talking. 

Speaker 

What? 

Quinny 

Oh yeah, that was that was ******. That was really, really badly. 

Jill 

At least the ads now are kind of being placed after somebody says something. 

Quinny 

Well, the thing that ****** me off about it is that most TV is still being made with the intent of maybe one day airing on AD, you know, on ATV channel where they leave the ******* ad breaks in there. 

Jill 

Quinny 

Actually put like beats in the episodes to leave space for ads. If you’ve got them. Why would you not ******* use them? 

Dion 

Also, I wonder can. Just like be part of that crowd that wants to call ******** on Reacher, having like a 10 episode season. *******. Come on. You know where’s the Golden Age of television, where they’re cranking at 26 episodes of these every September? Would start and you would just get 26. It would fall for and then people like Oh well. Anyway, I did read just like. ******* 9. I did 473 episodes. 

Jill 

I wouldn’t complain about having to stare at all. 

Speaker 

In. 

Jill 

For 26 episodes. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Quinny 

I agree with you, Dion, I think. 

Jill 

As long as he takes his shirt off for about 13 of them. 

Dion 

You know what? That’s. 

Speaker 

Dion 

Think the ratios are on your side there. 

Speaker 

I think. 

Dion 

Like Richard just seems to turn up and it’s like, hey, this is guys physically impressive. Let’s get him naked as possible all the time. 

Jill 

Yeah, well, there was. I think it was episode. He’s walking down the street in his underwear. 

Dion 

Yeah, and I love. 

Jill 

Yeah, no complaints. 

Dion 

Every single, every single female character in Reacher that sees him like is could be in mid sentence, just sees, sees him and then just goes the brain guy. 

Jill 

It’s not a great reel the other day that it was like, here’s the story about Reacher. Reacher can solve everything by how large he is. No. It’s too small for Reacher because he can solve it. His largeness. 

Dion 

I agree. 

Jill 

Except in this. In this book, there’s a guy that’s bigger than him. 

Quinny 

What? 

Jill 

Yeah, no. 

Dion 

But also way ******* Dumber. 

Jill 

So I think Alan Richen is like 6-6 or something and this guy that is in the this series is like 7, four or something ridiculous like that. 

Quinny 

Jesus Christ, but. 

Speaker 2 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Gonna say I’m like a mountain. 

Jill 

So it’s like. Does a large man defeat a larger man? 

Dion 

I mean it’s I feel like these these things can get a little bit lost until you start putting them back into. Like, I mean, come on. Just put them next to the female lead who’s like, 5-4 and then you’ll get the idea of just how massive that is. 

Quinny 

Or put them next to. Who everybody else thinks is a big, tall dude. Like I always remember seeing a picture of like I think it was Pedro Pascal or somebody like that standing next to the mountain and the hound. And it was like, oh, **** me, those things are actually giants. 

Dion 

Those things. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Before we wrap it up, what do we think of the 1st 2 episodes of Daredevil? 

Speaker 

Oh yes. 

Speaker 2 

I’m watching it. Oh no. 

Jill 

There’s like about 5 different TV series that are out right now that are dropping weekly and I am like trying to divert my time to a couple of them and maybe I’ll just binge dead at a later date. 

Dion 

Maybe. Maybe Nick’s like if electric state. We might do electric state. A bit of daredevil give you a shoot. 

Jill 

Ohh ****. I’m gonna have to watch. 

Dion 

A little. 

Quinny 

Did you not just hear Jule say she wants to put it off? 

Speaker 1 

No. 

Quinny 

We can wait. We can. We can wait till April to talk about the devil. 

Dion 

Sure, sure. My quick one on the two, the two episodes though, is on my daredevil. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Quinny 

Really. 

Jill 

But it’s still the same girl. 

Dion 

You know, I I get that. But still. 

Speaker 2 

Oh. 

Dion 

Although to be fair, I still only believe in Colin Farrell’s bullseye, so. 

Speaker 

It’s like. 

Dion 

That’s. He’s the only bullseye for me. 

Quinny 

Well, I’m in the opposite. I’m thoroughly on board with it and honestly, after about an episode and a half, I’m like Oh yeah, I’m just watching. Netflix show again. 

Jill 

Nice. 

Quinny 

Yeah, without all the **** stuff with the hand and the defenders. 

Speaker 

Oh yeah. 

Quinny 

Stuff like that. 

Dion 

Oh. Please bring back ******* Iron fist. 

Jill 

No two seasons too many of him. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Dion 

I mean that would that would be pretty great though, just at one point, all the defenders turn up in one of these episodes and I would just be like just having dinner or something having a. 

Speaker 

No. 

Dion 

They wouldn’t have. But they have to be separate from The Avengers. What would they? What fast food would they have? 

Quinny 

I don’t. I’m Philly cheese. I I would actually love for them to bring back Iron Fist. Just don’t want it to be Finn. I’d like it to have been Colleen Wing who took it. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

At the end of season 2. Was the iron fist. 

Speaker 

Yeah. Well. All right. 

Quinny 

Well, she did. 

Dion 

Sorry we have. We have to wrap it up there. ‘S Lost lost his ****. 

Peta 

And yeah, I’m gonna. Gonna. I’m technically, I’m still at work, so I’m just doing that. 

Speaker 4 

Now. 

Quinny 

This this is the face of somebody who is working on an Emmy production. We speak. 

Dion 

She’s like, well, hopefully like hopefully. 

Peta 

I think so. 

Quinny 

I say not putting any pressure on Peter at. 

Dion 

All. If there’s anyone who needs a 3D printer of themselves, it would be Peter. If you do have that technology, just give it to Peter. 

Speaker 

Yes, we need that. 

Peta 

Technology, I promise I won’t use it for evil. 

Dion 

You. I just now I’m imagining Peter going. 

Quinny 

What happens if the printer gets stuck? 

Peta 

You run out of ink halfway. Starts just like printing one colour. You end up with like just veins for the rest of. Body anyway. 

Dion 

What the rolling mechanism gets stuck and it just keeps printing you, but you just get. This is war. Then you end up like it’s, so you get the substance. 

Jill 

Little ****** legs. When you come out. 

Dion 

Damn, the feeder didn’t work. 

Jill 

We were talking about that so much last week. Watched that on the weekend too. 

Dion 

Nice, nice. 

Jill 

******* slaps that. 

Dion 

Movie it does. Slap. 

Quinny 

I’m off to go watch some more yellow jackets because that’s my thing at the moment. 

Jill 

It’s another one I haven’t started. 

Speaker 1 

****. 

Jill 

******* White Lotus, though, the old seasons. 

Quinny 

Done Netflix now. Well. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah, the old seasons. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. 

Dion 

I’m going to go and watch some last week tonight to make myself cry about the future of the world. 

Jill 

Yep. 

Quinny 

Look with that. Thanks everybody. 

Dion 

Thanks everyone. 

Speaker 2 

See you next week. 

Dion 

We’ll see you next week, OK? 

Speaker 

Alright.